Police Magazine info question

sdmark777 · 11-01-2018, 08:34 PM

I have an Haenel Schmeisser luger magazine I would like to know more about. It is marked on the bottom with a "2" for second magazine, an eagle stamp and no serial number. Ok, so it is a police magazine. What I would like to know is this. Is this an extra mag that went out to a police armorer and they just did not bother to stamp it with a serial number? yet they stamped it as a #2 mag? So kind of confused how this process worked. Also, what time period this mag would be appropriate for issue with a luger by police? Thanks, Mark

Edward Tinker · 11-01-2018, 08:54 PM

early thirties I feel with that 'dove' stamp. Just before the nazi's took power I would say.

The #2 would tell me that it was issued to a gun, but it sure doesn't look like it was ground or even re-shaped.

Lets say it is a replacement magazine - not being numbered I find very odd, but its a nice magazine!

How'd you pick it up?

sdmark777 · 11-02-2018, 07:15 PM

Edward you are correct that this mag bottom was never ground or reshaped. It was never stamped with a serial number. I think I picked up this mag at Ebay auction about 18 years ago.

Perhaps you can clarify something for me. I thought Luger's were typically delivered from the factory with 2 mags serialized to that Luger. Then Police armorers added number 1 and 2 to the mags and if a third mag was issued they stamped a 3 on an extra unmarked mag and usually stamped that Luger's serial number on it. If this was the protocol, then I wonder why my mag has a 2 but no serial, unless of course it was issued as a replacement for a lost #2 mag? Your thoughts or clarification? I guess this is why you said it was odd not to have a serial number. Thanks, Mark

LU1900 · 11-02-2018, 09:20 PM

Luger police were attributed from Mauser with the two "classic" mags , police armorer having lot of Haenel mag for extra mag
The third mag remains at the police post
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i need to have a look to mines , see if n° 2 or 3 is stamped on haenel one's !!

DonVoigt · 11-03-2018, 08:22 AM

I believe this magazine predates Mauser luger production, late '20s; and is of course a replacement- can't explain why it has a "2" without the pistol number. JMHO.

Police magazines were replaced, often multiple times. "Rigs" are sometimes seen with properly numbered magazines, one with a wood base and one a later aluminum base.

sdmark777 · 11-04-2018, 12:24 PM

Thank you all for your comments. Mark

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sdmark777 User Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 288 Thanks: 692 Thanked 672 Times in 174 Posts	Police Magazine info question I have an Haenel Schmeisser luger magazine I would like to know more about. It is marked on the bottom with a "2" for second magazine, an eagle stamp and no serial number. Ok, so it is a police magazine. What I would like to know is this. Is this an extra mag that went out to a police armorer and they just did not bother to stamp it with a serial number? yet they stamped it as a #2 mag? So kind of confused how this process worked. Also, what time period this mag would be appropriate for issue with a luger by police? Thanks, Mark Attached Thumbnails

11-02-2018, 09:20 PM	#4
LU1900 User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: FRANCE Posts: 908 Thanks: 41 Thanked 469 Times in 197 Posts	Luger police were attributed from Mauser with the two "classic" mags , police armorer having lot of Haenel mag for extra mag The third mag remains at the police post / i need to have a look to mines , see if n° 2 or 3 is stamped on haenel one's !! __________________ Best regards from France...Patrice https://www.fichier-pdf.fr/2016/03/1...nd-snail-drum/

11-03-2018, 08:22 AM	#5
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,441 Thanked 4,350 Times in 2,040 Posts	I believe this magazine predates Mauser luger production, late '20s; and is of course a replacement- can't explain why it has a "2" without the pistol number. JMHO. Police magazines were replaced, often multiple times. "Rigs" are sometimes seen with properly numbered magazines, one with a wood base and one a later aluminum base. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

11-01-2018, 08:54 PM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,931 Thanks: 2,031 Thanked 4,527 Times in 2,090 Posts	early thirties I feel with that 'dove' stamp. Just before the nazi's took power I would say. The #2 would tell me that it was issued to a gun, but it sure doesn't look like it was ground or even re-shaped. Lets say it is a replacement magazine - not being numbered I find very odd, but its a nice magazine! How'd you pick it up? __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

11-02-2018, 07:15 PM	#3
sdmark777 User Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 288 Thanks: 692 Thanked 672 Times in 174 Posts	Edward you are correct that this mag bottom was never ground or reshaped. It was never stamped with a serial number. I think I picked up this mag at Ebay auction about 18 years ago. Perhaps you can clarify something for me. I thought Luger's were typically delivered from the factory with 2 mags serialized to that Luger. Then Police armorers added number 1 and 2 to the mags and if a third mag was issued they stamped a 3 on an extra unmarked mag and usually stamped that Luger's serial number on it. If this was the protocol, then I wonder why my mag has a 2 but no serial, unless of course it was issued as a replacement for a lost #2 mag? Your thoughts or clarification? I guess this is why you said it was odd not to have a serial number. Thanks, Mark

11-04-2018, 12:24 PM	#6
sdmark777 User Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 288 Thanks: 692 Thanked 672 Times in 174 Posts	Thank you all for your comments. Mark