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Unread 01-08-2010, 10:49 PM   #1
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My new purchase (1917 Artillery) doesn't have any numbers on the grips. I know they should be. How much of a disaster is it. ALL the other numbers match even the sights parts. The grips appear original and have one place of wear. Are of a condition that could be right for the gun. Otherwise I guess I can look for a pair of # 33 grips.
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Unread 01-09-2010, 02:47 PM   #2
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Nobody has any words of wisdom on the grip numbers on 1917 Artillery. Any done without numbers?
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Hi Jack, I believe that the grips should be numbered. Both my 1917 and 1918 Artilleries have numbered grips. Regards
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Regarding your grips and pistol Jack. Are the grips beech or walnut? What letter block is the serial number. I have a '17 in the g block with unnumbered beech grips and a 1918 with unnumbered beech grips. I am certain that both pistold retain their original grips. On other 17's I have from the f block forward the beech grips are numbered. I also note that the serial number as stamped into beech grips is very faint compared to numbers stamped into walnut. Probably a combination of color and texture.
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My luger is of the g block. My other lugers have walnut grips. This one appears to be just like them. I haven't seen a beech wood one. Although I assume that wood is much lighter in color. I haven't cleaned these grips yet. They may be lighter when I take 93 years of grime & grit off. Your comments are very interesting and comforting and appreciated. Tell me more about beech wood ones.
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It my understanding that non matching grips are not that important same as the magazine....as long all other numbers match...
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It all depends on the gun and who is buying it. If a gun in a particular year and given serial number block are known to have grips numbered to the gun, then un numbered grips would be considered a mismatch or field replacement. If the serial number block is known to be spotty as far as grip numbers, then its ok.
As far as who is buying it; some collectors allow things like non matching mags, firing pins and grips slide, since they are considered "normal wear' of the gun, while others would not consider a gun unless all that matched.
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You need to satisfy yourself. The grips may or may not be original, who really knows for sure? Look at it this way: If the grips were in perfect condition and numbered to the gun, someone would tell you that they were fake. Un-numbered, original-appearing grips wouldn't stop me from buying a this gun. In fact, I have a 1917 artillery luger with un-numbered grips in the "k" suffix range and I am very pleased with it.

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Correct but un-numbered grips would not scare me away. But I'd try to buy it for less...
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