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Unread 01-04-2003, 01:11 AM   #1
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Unhappy 1937 Mismatch...

A recent acquisition of what I believe to be a Krieghoff 1937 dated receiver...reblued...Wish I had the complete matching pistol [img]frown.gif[/img]

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Unread 01-04-2003, 01:21 PM   #2
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Kidvett, Very interesting photo's. I have an S code Krieghoff that has no witness mark. It is just like yours. I could not make out a witness mark on your frame and barrel.I don't know if that is what it is called, The alignment mark to fit the barrel to the frame. Is it actually not there? Let me know if you get the time, Jerry Burney
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Jerry,

My S-code HK (serial # 2122) also does not have either half of a barrer/receiver witness mark...

John D.,...do any of your HK's have witness marks missing ? Mr. Randal Gibson seems to be "silent" on this matter in his book...

I would be worried if the barrel was missing it alone, but could not explain both halves of the marks missing or never being struck...on my pistol.

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Jerry,

Upon verification there is no witness mark on both the barrel & receiver on this 1937 dated KRIEGHOFF...

Now with yours & Pete's HK it makes 3 KRIEGHOFF pistols WITHOUT the witness mark. This combined with Mr. Gibson's silence on the matter could make me believe that KRIEGHOFF's were assembled without the witness mark [img]confused.gif[/img]

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[quote]Originally posted by Wm. Pete Ebbink:
<strong>John D.,...do any of your HK's have witness marks missing ? Mr. Randal Gibson seems to be "silent" on this matter in his book...</strong><hr></blockquote>

Hi Pete,

The reason Gibson was silent on that, is that there was no sample large enough for him to take, I believe. When he wrote his book, he had only a few samples of each to inspect.

Most Kriegs do not have that mark, until the 1944 production (both variations), the 1945 and the Post War. Therefore - a witness mark is more uncommon in the military G, S, 36, 1936, 1937, 1938, 1940, 1941, 1942, 1943 Series - and in the 1939 production (commercial). Also - it doesn't appear to follow a Serialized trend - just that in 1944 it became more prevalant.

So - kidvett's 1937 top end is correct as it stands (BTW - my 1937 does NOT have a witness mark either).

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