Straw color which parts......exactly?

TennBill2 · 02-19-2011, 07:18 PM

I'm a newcomer to the forum but a gun collector from way back. I have a 30 cal 'refinished' shooter which I like. The guy who blued it did everything! First: best way to remove the blue from the parts. Next: exactly which parts are to be straw colored, I've noticed several mixes. Bill

Ron Wood · 02-19-2011, 07:44 PM

I'm guessing that the .30 cal shooter is a 1920s Commercial. The strawed parts would be the takedown lever, the magazine release, the trigger, the safety lever and the ejector. The little safety "flag" that blocks the sear is "in the white".

nukem556 · 02-19-2011, 08:59 PM

in a related vein, Ron...or anyone else know which direction the "grain", or original machining marks run on a 1900 extractor? lengthwise, or across?

TennBill2 · 02-19-2011, 09:12 PM

look at the pic I just posted under early lugers, 'Iraq Borchardt'. Bill

Edward Tinker · 02-19-2011, 11:24 PM

Also, I believe this is covered under the FAQ (frequently asked questions), not trying to get anybody to not ask questions, but many of these questions are there.

New Collectors area, sticky at the top of the postings....

Ed

Ron Wood · 02-20-2011, 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nukem556

in a related vein, Ron...or anyone else know which direction the "grain", or original machining marks run on a 1900 extractor? lengthwise, or across?

Neither, actually. The extractor is very smoothly polished spring steel like the ejector. If you strain your imagination you might convince yourself that it runs lengthwise but it is virtually imperceptible.

calibrator · 02-20-2011, 11:29 AM

Hey Bill ! An older Luger refinishing expert told me to soak parts in White Vinegar to remove bluing as it is easier on etchings and stamped markings. Since your piece is refinished anyway, I would lightly sand with 320 -400 grit paper with nice even strokes in the same direction for a nicer finish. Heat parts with an electric paint stripper until you just see the color you want and then quench in 3in1 oil or the eqivalent. Often if you wait until you see the color you want and then quench it will end up darker. YMMV Joe

TennBill2 · 02-24-2011, 10:11 PM

I'll try the vinegar on a part to see how it works. One piece I'm uncertain about: what is the sear bar supposed to be? Some pic seem straw, some old patina.......in the white?

MFC · 02-24-2011, 10:57 PM

The sear bar is blued. The disconnector (little plunger on the end) is in the white.

TennBill2 · 02-25-2011, 03:44 PM

I decided to give my .30 cal shooter a straw job, everthing was blued. I used the white vinegar which worked well on all but the safety. I used a propane torch under flourescent light. I think the lighting is a big aid in getting the color. I'm very pleased with how it turned out. We'll see how the pic looks! Bill

sheepherder · 02-25-2011, 04:16 PM

Looks like they came out pretty good!!!

Ice · 02-25-2011, 06:59 PM

It came out good. Thenks for showing.

Charlie

MFC · 02-25-2011, 08:09 PM

Dat's mo better!!! Excellent job.

gwbeyer · 02-02-2015, 10:47 AM

Ron, would the same parts be strawed for a 1910 DWM Military Luger? Is the safety flag also in the white?

I tried downloading the FAQ but it downloads as a php file...

Gary

Ron Wood · 02-02-2015, 11:37 AM

Gary,
Yes, they are the same, and the flag is in the white.

02-19-2011, 07:18 PM	#1
TennBill2 RIP Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 101 Thanks: 0 Thanked 17 Times in 6 Posts	Straw color which parts......exactly? I'm a newcomer to the forum but a gun collector from way back. I have a 30 cal 'refinished' shooter which I like. The guy who blued it did everything! First: best way to remove the blue from the parts. Next: exactly which parts are to be straw colored, I've noticed several mixes. Bill

02-19-2011, 07:44 PM	#2
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,010 Thanks: 1,088 Thanked 5,149 Times in 1,694 Posts	I'm guessing that the .30 cal shooter is a 1920s Commercial. The strawed parts would be the takedown lever, the magazine release, the trigger, the safety lever and the ejector. The little safety "flag" that blocks the sear is "in the white". __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

02-19-2011, 09:12 PM	#4
TennBill2 RIP Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 101 Thanks: 0 Thanked 17 Times in 6 Posts	extractor look at the pic I just posted under early lugers, 'Iraq Borchardt'. Bill

02-19-2011, 11:24 PM	#5
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,926 Thanks: 2,014 Thanked 4,523 Times in 2,089 Posts	Also, I believe this is covered under the FAQ (frequently asked questions), not trying to get anybody to not ask questions, but many of these questions are there. New Collectors area, sticky at the top of the postings.... Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

02-24-2011, 10:57 PM	#9
MFC User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,237 Thanks: 183 Thanked 281 Times in 162 Posts	The sear bar is blued. The disconnector (little plunger on the end) is in the white. __________________ Mike C.

02-19-2011, 08:59 PM	#3
nukem556 User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Irmo, SC Posts: 625 Thanks: 35 Thanked 168 Times in 107 Posts	in a related vein, Ron...or anyone else know which direction the "grain", or original machining marks run on a 1900 extractor? lengthwise, or across?

02-20-2011, 11:29 AM	#7
calibrator User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Cave Creek Posts: 315 Thanks: 55 Thanked 242 Times in 92 Posts	Hey Bill ! An older Luger refinishing expert told me to soak parts in White Vinegar to remove bluing as it is easier on etchings and stamped markings. Since your piece is refinished anyway, I would lightly sand with 320 -400 grit paper with nice even strokes in the same direction for a nicer finish. Heat parts with an electric paint stripper until you just see the color you want and then quench in 3in1 oil or the eqivalent. Often if you wait until you see the color you want and then quench it will end up darker. YMMV Joe

02-24-2011, 10:11 PM	#8
TennBill2 RIP Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 101 Thanks: 0 Thanked 17 Times in 6 Posts	I'll try the vinegar on a part to see how it works. One piece I'm uncertain about: what is the sear bar supposed to be? Some pic seem straw, some old patina.......in the white?

02-25-2011, 03:44 PM	#10
TennBill2 RIP Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 101 Thanks: 0 Thanked 17 Times in 6 Posts	Strawed shooter I decided to give my .30 cal shooter a straw job, everthing was blued. I used the white vinegar which worked well on all but the safety. I used a propane torch under flourescent light. I think the lighting is a big aid in getting the color. I'm very pleased with how it turned out. We'll see how the pic looks! Bill Attached Images

02-25-2011, 04:16 PM	#11
sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,182 Thanks: 1,400 Thanked 4,441 Times in 2,329 Posts	Looks like they came out pretty good!!! __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...

02-25-2011, 06:59 PM	#12
Ice User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 552 Thanks: 13 Thanked 69 Times in 57 Posts	It came out good. Thenks for showing. Charlie

02-25-2011, 08:09 PM	#13
MFC User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,237 Thanks: 183 Thanked 281 Times in 162 Posts	Dat's mo better!!! Excellent job. __________________ Mike C.

02-02-2015, 10:47 AM	#14
gwbeyer New User Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ron, would the same parts be strawed for a 1910 DWM Military Luger? Is the safety flag also in the white? I tried downloading the FAQ but it downloads as a php file... Gary

02-02-2015, 11:37 AM	#15
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,010 Thanks: 1,088 Thanked 5,149 Times in 1,694 Posts	Gary, Yes, they are the same, and the flag is in the white. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction