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lugerluser · 10-12-2006, 10:07 PM

I was looking on the Gunbroker Site, and came up on this. Auction # 57932061. What is a repo like this worth? Looks pretty cool. Also, I am sure this has been covered, but what does the A.T.F & E. think of putting the stock on a Luger? Legal? Class III? Is it not now a rifle? Thanks, Sean.....

Edward Tinker · 10-12-2006, 10:14 PM

On this forum, it is acceptable to put the url here, makes it easier on us old guys;

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...?Item=57932061

So, that said, it is illegal as hell to put a stock on a luger not originally made for it. If you look it up on the BATF or whatever the hey they are called now, you can see that artillery's, navies, 1900 with certain stocks are allowed. AND, a navy is legal on a navy, an arty on an arty, NOT vice-versa...

Ed

Ron Smith · 10-12-2006, 10:18 PM

Sean,

I sold one just like this for $150 about a year ago. It ain't worth $500.

ATF is okay with repro Artillery stock on an original Imperial Artillery or a repro Navy stock on an original 6" Imperial Navy, but not one on the other or on a 4" Luger.

Ron

I see old Eddie Rocket Fingers beat me to it.

MFC · 10-13-2006, 12:28 AM

Hello Lugernauts,
Why is it illegal? Whats the reasoning? Could you put any Luger in this rig
as long as it's not connected to the stock? Just a curious newbie question.
Thanks,
Mike C.

Edward Tinker · 10-13-2006, 03:29 AM

It is illegal because the US gov't says it is so, in the USA

Common perception is this, if you own a stock, you better own one of the types that it fits it.

Are you going to be visited by a member of gov't? Probably not, but on the odd chance you display it, or someone comes by and reports you, (say you are at a range shooting with the stock on), then you'd better be able to "show" them. If not, then you might become a felon and a felon can not own a gun...

lugerluser · 10-13-2006, 02:28 PM

Ok guys. So if i have an artillery i am ok putting that stock on it? right?
Ron, Where can i get a rig like that for $150, have any more??
And Ed, thank you for assuming i know how to post the url. I don't. Let me, (us) know if you would be so kind. Thanks, Sean.....

Navy · 10-13-2006, 02:45 PM

Lugerluser,

Don't buy that P.O.S. it is a Paki goatskin version. They stink to high heaven, the leather is as poor quality as the workmanship and the wood/metal is absolute crap. There are good repops avail if you want a repop. Find an Odin and let Jerry Burney put a rig together for you.

Tom A

lugerluser · 10-13-2006, 02:58 PM

Thanks Tom. ...Still Learning!

10-12-2006, 10:07 PM	#1
lugerluser User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Winchester, Virginia Posts: 65 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	?????? I was looking on the Gunbroker Site, and came up on this. Auction # 57932061. What is a repo like this worth? Looks pretty cool. Also, I am sure this has been covered, but what does the A.T.F & E. think of putting the stock on a Luger? Legal? Class III? Is it not now a rifle? Thanks, Sean..... __________________ "GOD IS!"

10-12-2006, 10:18 PM	#3
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Sean, I sold one just like this for $150 about a year ago. It ain't worth $500. ATF is okay with repro Artillery stock on an original Imperial Artillery or a repro Navy stock on an original 6" Imperial Navy, but not one on the other or on a 4" Luger. Ron I see old Eddie Rocket Fingers beat me to it. __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

10-13-2006, 12:28 AM	#4
MFC User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,237 Thanks: 183 Thanked 281 Times in 162 Posts	Hello Lugernauts, Why is it illegal? Whats the reasoning? Could you put any Luger in this rig as long as it's not connected to the stock? Just a curious newbie question. Thanks, Mike C. __________________ Mike C.

10-13-2006, 03:29 AM	#5
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,911 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,502 Times in 2,077 Posts	It is illegal because the US gov't says it is so, in the USA Common perception is this, if you own a stock, you better own one of the types that it fits it. Are you going to be visited by a member of gov't? Probably not, but on the odd chance you display it, or someone comes by and reports you, (say you are at a range shooting with the stock on), then you'd better be able to "show" them. If not, then you might become a felon and a felon can not own a gun... __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

10-13-2006, 02:28 PM	#6
lugerluser User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Winchester, Virginia Posts: 65 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ok guys. So if i have an artillery i am ok putting that stock on it? right? Ron, Where can i get a rig like that for $150, have any more?? And Ed, thank you for assuming i know how to post the url. I don't. Let me, (us) know if you would be so kind. Thanks, Sean..... __________________ "GOD IS!"

10-12-2006, 10:14 PM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,911 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,502 Times in 2,077 Posts	On this forum, it is acceptable to put the url here, makes it easier on us old guys; http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...?Item=57932061 So, that said, it is illegal as hell to put a stock on a luger not originally made for it. If you look it up on the BATF or whatever the hey they are called now, you can see that artillery's, navies, 1900 with certain stocks are allowed. AND, a navy is legal on a navy, an arty on an arty, NOT vice-versa... Ed

10-13-2006, 02:45 PM	#7
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	Lugerluser, Don't buy that P.O.S. it is a Paki goatskin version. They stink to high heaven, the leather is as poor quality as the workmanship and the wood/metal is absolute crap. There are good repops avail if you want a repop. Find an Odin and let Jerry Burney put a rig together for you. Tom A

10-13-2006, 02:58 PM	#8
lugerluser User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Winchester, Virginia Posts: 65 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks Tom. ...Still Learning! __________________ "GOD IS!"