Looks Like I'm Joining the Swiss Luger Club !!

Dean762 · 11-13-2004, 12:20 AM

Got a 1929 on order from FGS. Should get it early next week. Basically my first Luger. I figure that this will be the one I will cut my teeth on. Can hardly wait !!

Pete Ebbink · 11-13-2004, 09:20 PM

Hi Dean,

Cannot fault a fellow that likes Swiss lugers...!!! Congratulations !

Be sure and post photos when your new toy is home.

Also, when you take it apart, look in the front frame well (where the take-down lever runs through. You will see a date stamp that will tell you when the Swiss Bern factory made your luger. For example...if you see " 6.43 "...that means June 1943...

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

Pete Ebbink · 12-02-2004, 03:04 PM

Well...our newest "Swiss" luger addict took the plunge and brought home a really nice M1929 Bern rig. Here are a couple of photos Dean asked me to post.

Congratulations, Dean, on a great rig !!!

pisto · 12-02-2004, 03:32 PM

Dean, excellent rig, also the holster is in mint condition!
In which ser. range is this one?

Pete Ebbink · 12-02-2004, 03:53 PM

Hi Dean,

1. Have you found the month/year stamp on the inside of frame's front well ?

2. Is your holster dated and maker stamped ?

Hi Roland,

Dean's luger is in the 63xxx range...I will let him post the full number...if he wishes to.

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

Dean762 · 12-02-2004, 06:50 PM

Thanks folks. I feel like a new dad. The ser # is 63XXX and the gun was manufactured on 12/41. All #s match and it looks like an easy 98 percent. Nearly a mint bore. The gun has no import marks and is "P" marked near the trigger guard with the year of privatization being "53". The holster is dated 1949 with miltary acceptance marks and the sattlers marks on the back. If people wish I can send detailed pics of the holster to Pete for publication.

Pete Ebbink · 12-02-2004, 09:05 PM

More holster photos from Dean. What a nice piece of leather ! You have scored well on your first Luger outting, Dean !!! <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" />

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

Dean762 · 12-02-2004, 10:58 PM

Thanks again Pete. What a joy it is to join this club. I look forward to learning a lot more about Swiss lugers and Lugers in general.

Dean

Dean762 · 12-03-2004, 11:03 AM

Hi folks. I was wondering about a loading tool for the above gun? Did the Swiss have one? I didnt see one shown in Bobbas book as an accessorie. The mags are a bit tough to load and John Sabato recommends using the tool for an assist during cleaning of the mags rather than removing the pins to take the mags apart. Any info would be appreciated on price and where I could get one.

Thanks
Dean

Pete Ebbink · 12-04-2004, 11:31 AM

Hi Dean,

I have been told my many Swiss and European luger collectors that a Swiss marked TD tool was never Ordnance issued. Some have appeared..especially in the USA...which leads some to believe they are manufacturered by Waffenfabrik-USA...

Regardless...I wanted one for my Swiss collection and I was fortunate to find this one. Paid a bit too much for it...but it is an oddity :

Regards,

Pete.. <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

Ron Wood · 12-04-2004, 11:45 AM

Several years ago, probably around 20 or so, a gentleman from Odessa, Texas, had a tool marked with the Swiss cross and numbered 39. He had hopes of acquiring a Swiss Luger to go with it, and although I tried for a couple of years, I never could talk him out of it.

Dean762 · 12-04-2004, 12:04 PM

Thanks for the info Pete and Ron. I agree Pete even if it wasnt ord issued I would like to have one for my system. If you should ever run across one for sale please let me know. Now for another dumb newbie question. Are all luger td tools the same? If I bought say a German tool would it function just as well in a Swiss system?

Pete Ebbink · 12-04-2004, 12:32 PM

Hi Dean,

The German made TD tools as well as the tools from the 1970's Mauser luger will work with your M1929. I would stay away from the repros for lack of quality of the metals on most.

You might want to make your next luger purchase a nice 4" or 6" 9mm shooter. Your M1929 is much too nice to shoot alot. And that .30 luger ammo can add up in price. You should be able to find decent shooter in the $ 700-900 price range.

Some folks that do shoot a collectable piece will replace some breakage-prone parts with non-matching parts for use at the range and save their original, matching parts for display purposes.

I have shot every luger in my collection at least one time...some a few times more. But I use my 3 shooter lugers regularly...and do not care if a part breaks or wears out now and then...

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

minigun · 12-09-2004, 01:23 AM

Well, another fine Luger rig pic for my collection. Thanks.....

11-13-2004, 12:20 AM	#1
Dean762 User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 72 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Looks Like I'm Joining the Swiss Luger Club !! Got a 1929 on order from FGS. Should get it early next week. Basically my first Luger. I figure that this will be the one I will cut my teeth on. Can hardly wait !!

12-04-2004, 11:45 AM	#11
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,988 Thanks: 1,067 Thanked 5,098 Times in 1,676 Posts	Several years ago, probably around 20 or so, a gentleman from Odessa, Texas, had a tool marked with the Swiss cross and numbered 39. He had hopes of acquiring a Swiss Luger to go with it, and although I tried for a couple of years, I never could talk him out of it. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

11-13-2004, 09:20 PM	#2
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hi Dean, Cannot fault a fellow that likes Swiss lugers...!!! Congratulations ! Be sure and post photos when your new toy is home. Also, when you take it apart, look in the front frame well (where the take-down lever runs through. You will see a date stamp that will tell you when the Swiss Bern factory made your luger. For example...if you see " 6.43 "...that means June 1943... Regards, Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

12-02-2004, 03:04 PM	#3
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Well...our newest "Swiss" luger addict took the plunge and brought home a really nice M1929 Bern rig. Here are a couple of photos Dean asked me to post. Congratulations, Dean, on a great rig !!!

12-02-2004, 03:32 PM	#4
pisto User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 228 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Dean, excellent rig, also the holster is in mint condition! In which ser. range is this one?

12-02-2004, 03:53 PM	#5
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hi Dean, 1. Have you found the month/year stamp on the inside of frame's front well ? 2. Is your holster dated and maker stamped ? Hi Roland, Dean's luger is in the 63xxx range...I will let him post the full number...if he wishes to. Regards, Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

12-02-2004, 06:50 PM	#6
Dean762 User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 72 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks folks. I feel like a new dad. The ser # is 63XXX and the gun was manufactured on 12/41. All #s match and it looks like an easy 98 percent. Nearly a mint bore. The gun has no import marks and is "P" marked near the trigger guard with the year of privatization being "53". The holster is dated 1949 with miltary acceptance marks and the sattlers marks on the back. If people wish I can send detailed pics of the holster to Pete for publication.

12-02-2004, 09:05 PM	#7
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	More holster photos from Dean. What a nice piece of leather ! You have scored well on your first Luger outting, Dean !!! <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" /> Regards, Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

12-02-2004, 10:58 PM	#8
Dean762 User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 72 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks again Pete. What a joy it is to join this club. I look forward to learning a lot more about Swiss lugers and Lugers in general. Dean

12-03-2004, 11:03 AM	#9
Dean762 User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 72 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hi folks. I was wondering about a loading tool for the above gun? Did the Swiss have one? I didnt see one shown in Bobbas book as an accessorie. The mags are a bit tough to load and John Sabato recommends using the tool for an assist during cleaning of the mags rather than removing the pins to take the mags apart. Any info would be appreciated on price and where I could get one. Thanks Dean

12-04-2004, 11:31 AM	#10
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hi Dean, I have been told my many Swiss and European luger collectors that a Swiss marked TD tool was never Ordnance issued. Some have appeared..especially in the USA...which leads some to believe they are manufacturered by Waffenfabrik-USA... Regardless...I wanted one for my Swiss collection and I was fortunate to find this one. Paid a bit too much for it...but it is an oddity : <a href="http://boards.rennlist.com/lfupload/SwissTool4.jpg" target="_fullview"><img src="http://boards.rennlist.com/lfupload/SwissTool4.jpg" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a> Regards, Pete.. <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

12-04-2004, 12:04 PM	#12
Dean762 User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 72 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks for the info Pete and Ron. I agree Pete even if it wasnt ord issued I would like to have one for my system. If you should ever run across one for sale please let me know. Now for another dumb newbie question. Are all luger td tools the same? If I bought say a German tool would it function just as well in a Swiss system?

12-04-2004, 12:32 PM	#13
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hi Dean, The German made TD tools as well as the tools from the 1970's Mauser luger will work with your M1929. I would stay away from the repros for lack of quality of the metals on most. You might want to make your next luger purchase a nice 4" or 6" 9mm shooter. Your M1929 is much too nice to shoot alot. And that .30 luger ammo can add up in price. You should be able to find decent shooter in the $ 700-900 price range. Some folks that do shoot a collectable piece will replace some breakage-prone parts with non-matching parts for use at the range and save their original, matching parts for display purposes. I have shot every luger in my collection at least one time...some a few times more. But I use my 3 shooter lugers regularly...and do not care if a part breaks or wears out now and then... Regards, Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

12-09-2004, 01:23 AM	#14
minigun User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 424 Thanks: 15 Thanked 19 Times in 14 Posts	Well, another fine Luger rig pic for my collection. Thanks.....