Rear Toggle Pin

Dwight Gruber · 08-28-2002, 02:44 AM

Was examining my Erfurt Artillery, and what I noticed on the rear toggle pin caused me to break down my 1917 DWM Artillery and check that, too.

On both of these guns there is no marking on the rear toggle pin, neither serial number nor, particularly surprising with the Erfurt, proof stamp.

Do I presume these are both replacements, or is there something about Artillery markings I have yet to learn?

--Dwight

Jan C Still · 08-28-2002, 02:54 AM

Dwight
Luger main pins werent required to be numbered until the early 1930s. Imperial DWMs have unmarked pins. Early Erfurts sometimes have the proof eagle on the main pin.
Jan

Big Norm · 08-28-2002, 03:01 AM

None of my DWM artillerys have any markings on the hinge pin. Most, but not all, of my Erfurt artillerys have Erfurt crowns on the face of the hinge pin. Does your Erfurt have crowns on the grip screws? They will look like tiny little dinks until you look close.
Big Norm

Dwight Gruber · 08-28-2002, 03:08 AM

Jan,

Thank you for the new information, I expect it to stand me in good stead when I examine Lugers in the future.

Norm,

Thanks for the survey. Yes, it has inspector stamps on the grip screws, that's what convinced me to buy.

--Dwight

Doubs · 08-28-2002, 11:48 AM

On my two Erfurt Artillery models, the toggle pins are clean. The grip screws are all marked.

08-28-2002, 02:44 AM	#1
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,889 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,281 Times in 423 Posts	Rear Toggle Pin Was examining my Erfurt Artillery, and what I noticed on the rear toggle pin caused me to break down my 1917 DWM Artillery and check that, too. On both of these guns there is no marking on the rear toggle pin, neither serial number nor, particularly surprising with the Erfurt, proof stamp. Do I presume these are both replacements, or is there something about Artillery markings I have yet to learn? --Dwight

08-28-2002, 02:54 AM	#2
Jan C Still User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Box 240188, Douglas, Alaska, 99824 Posts: 463 Thanks: 0 Thanked 52 Times in 32 Posts	Dwight Luger main pins werent required to be numbered until the early 1930s. Imperial DWMs have unmarked pins. Early Erfurts sometimes have the proof eagle on the main pin. Jan

08-28-2002, 03:01 AM	#3
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	None of my DWM artillerys have any markings on the hinge pin. Most, but not all, of my Erfurt artillerys have Erfurt crowns on the face of the hinge pin. Does your Erfurt have crowns on the grip screws? They will look like tiny little dinks until you look close. Big Norm

08-28-2002, 03:08 AM	#4
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,889 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,281 Times in 423 Posts	Jan, Thank you for the new information, I expect it to stand me in good stead when I examine Lugers in the future. Norm, Thanks for the survey. Yes, it has inspector stamps on the grip screws, that's what convinced me to buy. --Dwight

08-28-2002, 11:48 AM	#5
Doubs User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Byron, Georgia Posts: 1,670 Thanks: 769 Thanked 1,611 Times in 525 Posts	On my two Erfurt Artillery models, the toggle pins are clean. The grip screws are all marked.