VERY Interesting Auction!

Doubs · 08-27-2002, 11:05 PM

There's a commercial Artillery Luger rig being sold on ebay. It began rather low but in only a day it has had 14 bids and is over $900 with more than 5 days remaining! It should be interesting to see what it brings. The auction is:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...134882482&rd=1

wterrell · 08-27-2002, 11:10 PM

That is a nice patina on the holster 'proper'. Why did they not stain the board?

Big Norm · 08-28-2002, 02:22 AM

The magazine pouch and the straps look new to me. I suspect that the holster and the stock are too. Commercial may be a code word for repro.
Big Norm [img]wink.gif[/img]

Ron Wood · 08-28-2002, 10:53 AM

Repro was my first impression, then I looked at the bidding history. A couple of those names look familiar as folks who have bought and sold Lugers frequently, so it seems odd that they would be easily fooled, particularly at the dollar level involved. Makes me wonder whether I am totally out of it or they are. I will be the first to admit that Luger leather is not my strongest area.

Doubs · 08-28-2002, 11:41 AM

[quote]Originally posted by Ron Wood:
<strong>Repro was my first impression, <Snip> I will be the first to admit that Luger leather is not my strongest area.</strong><hr></blockquote>

While I didn't say so in my initial post, I too think it's a little too nice. The lower boot strap appears to be new and not a crack in the leather anywhere. The stock, as Wes points out, is much too blonde. It's gotten into some serious money and I would definitely want a return priviledge if I were bidding.

What surprised me most was the way the bidding took off so quickly after appearing on ebay. That's unusual with more than 5 days remaining. Usually the real bidding is in the final minutes of an auction. I guess this one has appeal.

wterrell · 08-28-2002, 07:51 PM

The appeal is the nice picture.

Big Norm · 08-28-2002, 11:04 PM

I have a repro holster that looks exactly like this one. The dealer threw it in with an artillery, after I negotiated a price on the gun. Yah right, its a commercial alright. A 1999 commercial. Maybe $250 at best.
Big Norm [img]frown.gif[/img]

Garfield · 08-29-2002, 02:02 AM

I see that Tom A is high bidder. I am beginning to suspect that he collects repros.

George Anderson · 08-29-2002, 07:27 AM

I believe that this is the second time within twelve months that this rig has been auctioned. If I am correct, then the first time around it was auctioned by a known "dealer" in Minnesota. I have had dealings with the current owner and feel that he is straight-up.

Further, I have no self control when it comes to artilleries and I will not bid on this one.

Big Norm · 08-30-2002, 02:08 AM

This item has been taken off of the auction. I wonder what this is about? As mentioned earlier, all the people involved are known and respected individuals.
Big Norm [img]confused.gif[/img]

John Sabato · 08-30-2002, 10:03 AM

Quite possibly the seller has observed this discussion and has realized the error of his words and withdrawn the item so as not to get a rep for shaky advertising language... [img]rolleyes.gif[/img]

08-27-2002, 11:05 PM	#1
Doubs User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Byron, Georgia Posts: 1,670 Thanks: 769 Thanked 1,611 Times in 525 Posts	VERY Interesting Auction! There's a commercial Artillery Luger rig being sold on ebay. It began rather low but in only a day it has had 14 bids and is over $900 with more than 5 days remaining! It should be interesting to see what it brings. The auction is: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...134882482&rd=1

08-27-2002, 11:10 PM	#2
wterrell User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,096 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	That is a nice patina on the holster 'proper'. Why did they not stain the board? __________________ Noli me vocare, ego te vocabo, wes --------------------

08-28-2002, 10:53 AM	#4
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,986 Thanks: 1,065 Thanked 5,088 Times in 1,674 Posts	Repro was my first impression, then I looked at the bidding history. A couple of those names look familiar as folks who have bought and sold Lugers frequently, so it seems odd that they would be easily fooled, particularly at the dollar level involved. Makes me wonder whether I am totally out of it or they are. I will be the first to admit that Luger leather is not my strongest area. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

08-28-2002, 07:51 PM	#6
wterrell User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,096 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	The appeal is the nice picture. __________________ Noli me vocare, ego te vocabo, wes --------------------

08-30-2002, 10:03 AM	#11
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Quite possibly the seller has observed this discussion and has realized the error of his words and withdrawn the item so as not to get a rep for shaky advertising language... [img]rolleyes.gif[/img] __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

08-28-2002, 02:22 AM	#3
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	The magazine pouch and the straps look new to me. I suspect that the holster and the stock are too. Commercial may be a code word for repro. Big Norm [img]wink.gif[/img]

08-28-2002, 11:41 AM	#5
Doubs User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Byron, Georgia Posts: 1,670 Thanks: 769 Thanked 1,611 Times in 525 Posts	[quote]Originally posted by Ron Wood: <strong>Repro was my first impression, <Snip> I will be the first to admit that Luger leather is not my strongest area.</strong><hr></blockquote> While I didn't say so in my initial post, I too think it's a little too nice. The lower boot strap appears to be new and not a crack in the leather anywhere. The stock, as Wes points out, is much too blonde. It's gotten into some serious money and I would definitely want a return priviledge if I were bidding. What surprised me most was the way the bidding took off so quickly after appearing on ebay. That's unusual with more than 5 days remaining. Usually the real bidding is in the final minutes of an auction. I guess this one has appeal.

08-28-2002, 11:04 PM	#7
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	I have a repro holster that looks exactly like this one. The dealer threw it in with an artillery, after I negotiated a price on the gun. Yah right, its a commercial alright. A 1999 commercial. Maybe $250 at best. Big Norm [img]frown.gif[/img]

08-29-2002, 02:02 AM	#8
Garfield User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A little SE of Nome Posts: 239 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I see that Tom A is high bidder. I am beginning to suspect that he collects repros.

08-29-2002, 07:27 AM	#9
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,769 Thanked 2,527 Times in 786 Posts	I believe that this is the second time within twelve months that this rig has been auctioned. If I am correct, then the first time around it was auctioned by a known "dealer" in Minnesota. I have had dealings with the current owner and feel that he is straight-up. Further, I have no self control when it comes to artilleries and I will not bid on this one.

08-30-2002, 02:08 AM	#10
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	This item has been taken off of the auction. I wonder what this is about? As mentioned earlier, all the people involved are known and respected individuals. Big Norm [img]confused.gif[/img]