DWM Chromed

Clarence Birdseye · 07-26-2011, 09:21 AM

Hi all.

I have owned a number of Lugers, some of which I sold, sadly.

I came across the example shown here recently and I thought that, for the price, it would make a good shooter.

In any event, it seemed more interesting the more I looked at it. It is commercial and there are no import marks. The bore looks as good as a brand new firearm. All of the visible numbers match.

I'd like to know what I have. I(t does not look like the typical chromed bring-back. Could this be one of the transcendentally rare examples of Luger from the Waffen SS Syncopated Drill Team?

I'd like to get a handle on the date of manufacture and the caliber.

Any thoughts are appreciated.

FNorm · 07-26-2011, 10:36 AM

9mm or 7.65? It seems to be a commercial, with a Q suffix. Q block was made last 3 quarters of 1927 and into the first quarter of 1928

Oh, and it was issued to the SD ice hockey team.

FN

Don M · 07-26-2011, 10:43 AM

The small eagle on the bottom of the barrel above the serial number is interesting. It is typically found on 9-mm replacement barrels of police Lugers that were purchased as .30-cal and rebarrelled. It is thought to indicate reworking by Simson.

Clarence Birdseye · 07-26-2011, 10:46 AM

Are there any other pictures that might be helpful?

Hockey team ... makes sense.

Edward Tinker · 07-26-2011, 10:57 AM

So, its a commercial, what caliber is it? A normal pencil will not fit into a 30 luger, but will fall down a 9mm

A commercial luger that most likely went into army service or police, but probably army, then at some point someone in the USA chromed it (although it was done by GI's after the war also).

Ed

Clarence Birdseye · 07-26-2011, 11:22 AM

9mm. It does not look like the plating was a schlock job, numbers and marks seem pretty sharp.

Clarence Birdseye · 07-26-2011, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward Tinker

So, its a commercial, what caliber is it? A normal pencil will not fit into a 30 luger, but will fall down a 9mm

A commercial luger that most likely went into army service or police, but probably army, then at some point someone in the USA chromed it (although it was done by GI's after the war also).

Ed

There don't seem to be any "official" marks except for the eagle on the barrel. Is that consistent with your interpretation?

Lugerdoc · 07-27-2011, 11:44 AM

Definately not factory applied finish. Heavily polished with rounded edges. TH

Clarence Birdseye · 10-25-2011, 02:35 PM

I found that the grips are both marked with the sn and a set of initials: JMA

Is this an inspector?

07-26-2011, 09:21 AM	#1
Clarence Birdseye User Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	DWM Chromed Hi all. I have owned a number of Lugers, some of which I sold, sadly. I came across the example shown here recently and I thought that, for the price, it would make a good shooter. In any event, it seemed more interesting the more I looked at it. It is commercial and there are no import marks. The bore looks as good as a brand new firearm. All of the visible numbers match. I'd like to know what I have. I(t does not look like the typical chromed bring-back. Could this be one of the transcendentally rare examples of Luger from the Waffen SS Syncopated Drill Team? I'd like to get a handle on the date of manufacture and the caliber. Any thoughts are appreciated.

07-26-2011, 10:43 AM	#3
Don M Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,429 Thanks: 67 Thanked 292 Times in 191 Posts	The small eagle on the bottom of the barrel above the serial number is interesting. It is typically found on 9-mm replacement barrels of police Lugers that were purchased as .30-cal and rebarrelled. It is thought to indicate reworking by Simson. __________________ Regards, Don donmaus1@aol.com Author of History Writ in Steel: German Police Markings 1900-1936 http://www.historywritinsteel.com

07-26-2011, 10:57 AM	#5
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,912 Thanks: 1,989 Thanked 4,502 Times in 2,077 Posts	So, its a commercial, what caliber is it? A normal pencil will not fit into a 30 luger, but will fall down a 9mm A commercial luger that most likely went into army service or police, but probably army, then at some point someone in the USA chromed it (although it was done by GI's after the war also). Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

07-27-2011, 11:44 AM	#8
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Definately not factory applied finish. Heavily polished with rounded edges. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

07-26-2011, 10:36 AM	#2
FNorm Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 978 Thanks: 68 Thanked 127 Times in 108 Posts	9mm or 7.65? It seems to be a commercial, with a Q suffix. Q block was made last 3 quarters of 1927 and into the first quarter of 1928 Oh, and it was issued to the SD ice hockey team. FN

07-26-2011, 10:46 AM	#4
Clarence Birdseye User Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Are there any other pictures that might be helpful? Hockey team ... makes sense.

07-26-2011, 11:22 AM	#6
Clarence Birdseye User Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	9mm. It does not look like the plating was a schlock job, numbers and marks seem pretty sharp.

10-25-2011, 02:35 PM	#9
Clarence Birdseye User Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I found that the grips are both marked with the sn and a set of initials: JMA Is this an inspector?