guns america fraud?

edwood · 11-27-2006, 02:37 PM

I have a fn 1922 I am selling on Guns America.
I received a email from a buyer through the site that stated they would like to buy the gun.
Along with the email I received this message from GA,
FRAUD ALERT FRAUD ALERT FRAUD ALERT FRAUD ALERT FRAUD ALERT

NOTE: THIS BUYER HAS INCLUDED COMMENTS MUCH LIKE THOSE OF
INTERNATIONAL FRAUD. NEVER AGREE TO SHIP A GUN OUTSIDE THE
COUNTRY AND NEVER ACCEPT A MONEY ORDER FOR MORE THAN THE GUN IS
WORTH. ALL **NON-US POSTAL MONEY ORDERS SHOULD BE CLEARED FOR A
WEEK BEFORE SHIPPING A GUN**. IT IS ALMOST 100% THAT THIS IS FRAUD.
I did not see what was wrong with the buyers commentsl. but I do know of a scam where they send you a check for more than the amount of the gun, and then ask for money back, and the check is bad.
The buyer did not want to loose the gun but did not want to pay the 4% paypal fee.
So he asked if he could pay a deposit on paypal and send a money order for the balance.
I had no problem with this but it made me think, what if some one sent a paypal deposit and then a bad check for the big$ and you send the gun.
I will wait for the check to clear before sending the gun, but I just wonderd if any one has seen this as a new type of scam or if the GA system just picked up on some key words that were similar to a known scam.

Brent B. · 11-27-2006, 04:38 PM

I think it's standard to get the message from GunBroker on all emails thru them. By including it in emails it probably reduces the liability to GunBroker. Brent B.

Ron Smith · 11-27-2006, 05:41 PM

Ed,

As Brent stated. It is a standard boilerplate attachment. Just to keep you alert to the possibility of fraud. To urge caution when dealing with anyone.

Ron

micmacman · 11-29-2006, 10:30 AM

ive had one deal on GA,and it was a bad one,GA ignored to do anything about the seller,the rifle was described as having a "mint" bore,to me a mint bore doesnt get brown crud out when running a bore brush through

i contacted the seller after receiving the rifle and inspecting the bore,never got an email in return,aske gA if they would contact him,not only did i still never get a email from him,i never got anything from GA,ever

it wasnt until after i realized i was stuck with the rifle i cleaned the bore,frosted the intire way through,shoots fine,but thats not the point,i paid for a "mint" bore

the gunman · 11-29-2006, 11:49 AM

I two had problems with GA. After notifying them nothing on there end was done to help.

11-27-2006, 02:37 PM	#1
edwood User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Chicago Posts: 94 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	guns america fraud? I have a fn 1922 I am selling on Guns America. I received a email from a buyer through the site that stated they would like to buy the gun. Along with the email I received this message from GA, FRAUD ALERT FRAUD ALERT FRAUD ALERT FRAUD ALERT FRAUD ALERT NOTE: THIS BUYER HAS INCLUDED COMMENTS MUCH LIKE THOSE OF INTERNATIONAL FRAUD. NEVER AGREE TO SHIP A GUN OUTSIDE THE COUNTRY AND NEVER ACCEPT A MONEY ORDER FOR MORE THAN THE GUN IS WORTH. ALL NON-US POSTAL MONEY ORDERS SHOULD BE CLEARED FOR A WEEK BEFORE SHIPPING A GUN. IT IS ALMOST 100% THAT THIS IS FRAUD. I did not see what was wrong with the buyers commentsl. but I do know of a scam where they send you a check for more than the amount of the gun, and then ask for money back, and the check is bad. The buyer did not want to loose the gun but did not want to pay the 4% paypal fee. So he asked if he could pay a deposit on paypal and send a money order for the balance. I had no problem with this but it made me think, what if some one sent a paypal deposit and then a bad check for the big$ and you send the gun. I will wait for the check to clear before sending the gun, but I just wonderd if any one has seen this as a new type of scam or if the GA system just picked up on some key words that were similar to a known scam.

11-27-2006, 05:41 PM	#3
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Ed, As Brent stated. It is a standard boilerplate attachment. Just to keep you alert to the possibility of fraud. To urge caution when dealing with anyone. Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

11-29-2006, 10:30 AM	#4
micmacman User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: West Virginia Posts: 33 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	ive had one deal on GA,and it was a bad one,GA ignored to do anything about the seller,the rifle was described as having a "mint" bore,to me a mint bore doesnt get brown crud out when running a bore brush through i contacted the seller after receiving the rifle and inspecting the bore,never got an email in return,aske gA if they would contact him,not only did i still never get a email from him,i never got anything from GA,ever it wasnt until after i realized i was stuck with the rifle i cleaned the bore,frosted the intire way through,shoots fine,but thats not the point,i paid for a "mint" bore __________________ NRA,give,and give often,,,they fight the good fight for all of us

11-27-2006, 04:38 PM	#2
Brent B. User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 176 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I think it's standard to get the message from GunBroker on all emails thru them. By including it in emails it probably reduces the liability to GunBroker. Brent B.

11-29-2006, 11:49 AM	#5
the gunman User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Leland NC 28451 Posts: 1,017 Thanks: 1 Thanked 13 Times in 12 Posts	I two had problems with GA. After notifying them nothing on there end was done to help.