Luger assessment needed.

Barnman · 08-10-2021, 10:42 PM

I have a luger that I am trying to figure out what I have and maybe value. I don't want to talk discussing value is not recommended by the forum. Here are some photos. Brian

gunnertwo · 08-10-2021, 10:47 PM

Welcome to the Forum.

Some questions, is it matching? What is the chamber date? The details on the second pic are hidden from the great amount of oil on the gun. Could some better pics be posted?

Thanks,

G2

HerrKaiser · 08-10-2021, 11:17 PM

From what I can see, the grips, side plate, sear bar, TD lever, both toggle links, extractor, and safety bar (unless that is actually an 86 instead) are numbered 36 and matching.

Still need to see the frame, barrel, trigger, safety lever, hold open, breechblock, and firing pin.

mrerick · 08-11-2021, 09:41 AM

Hi, Need close up sharp photos showing detail of the barrel and frame serial numbers taken in shaded natural light without flash. Also the frame rails and slide rails areas.

Take your photos with a digital camera or a more recent cell phone that can focus on and resolve detail.

Do get a copy of our FAQ PDF document, which will provide useful reference information for you to help you identify what you have.

Vlim · 08-11-2021, 10:20 AM

From what is visible, an early military P08 without stock lug.
What is the chamber date?

Nothing wrong with discussing value on the forum. We just don't appreciate 'auctions' in the sales section and we require a sales price if a gun is posted for sale.

But for assessments like these, discussing a value is no problem.

lugerholsterrepair · 08-11-2021, 11:26 AM

Is there no magazine?

Edward Tinker · 08-11-2021, 01:19 PM

What I can see - DWM (maker in germany from 1900-1930)
**what is the caliber? - I expect it to be 9mm Luger, but you can show the underside of the barrel, it would have xxxx (serial number) and under that 8,82 or a number close to that - that is the land to land grooves.
Is it marked Germany anywhere? I expect it not to say that
And is that rust or gunk on the right side? Rust that much can be removed, but I would leave it alone

If it came by my table at a show, I'd offer $500 without ascertaining much about it - more as I figured it out

But, without matching grips, without a magazine, not much more than $600-700

wayne8661 · 08-11-2021, 03:24 PM

Any Unit Markings on the grip strap?

Doubs · 08-11-2021, 06:22 PM

The date will be 1913 or earlier - likely earlier - as it has the hold open modification and no stock lug. The directive that all Lugers were to have the hold open from the factory was issued on 6 May, 1913. Earlier guns were to be retrofit by the Royal Erfurt Rifle Arsenal with the hold open. Not all earlier guns were as they were not all returned to be modified.

08-10-2021, 10:42 PM	#1
Barnman New User Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Luger assessment needed. I have a luger that I am trying to figure out what I have and maybe value. I don't want to talk discussing value is not recommended by the forum. Here are some photos. Brian

08-10-2021, 11:17 PM	#3
HerrKaiser User Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: South Carolina Posts: 800 Thanks: 750 Thanked 793 Times in 376 Posts	From what I can see, the grips, side plate, sear bar, TD lever, both toggle links, extractor, and safety bar (unless that is actually an 86 instead) are numbered 36 and matching. Still need to see the frame, barrel, trigger, safety lever, hold open, breechblock, and firing pin. __________________ -QM Looking for Mauser S/42 toggle train #22

08-11-2021, 09:41 AM	#4
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,900 Thanks: 1,370 Thanked 3,094 Times in 1,503 Posts	Hi, Need close up sharp photos showing detail of the barrel and frame serial numbers taken in shaded natural light without flash. Also the frame rails and slide rails areas. Take your photos with a digital camera or a more recent cell phone that can focus on and resolve detail. Do get a copy of our FAQ PDF document, which will provide useful reference information for you to help you identify what you have. __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

08-11-2021, 11:26 AM	#6
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08-11-2021, 01:19 PM	#7
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,909 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,500 Times in 2,076 Posts	What I can see - DWM (maker in germany from 1900-1930) what is the caliber? - I expect it to be 9mm Luger, but you can show the underside of the barrel, it would have xxxx (serial number) and under that 8,82 or a number close to that - that is the land to land grooves. Is it marked Germany anywhere? I expect it not to say that And is that rust or gunk on the right side? Rust that much can be removed, but I would leave it alone If it came by my table at a show, I'd offer $500 without ascertaining much about it - more as I figured it out But, without matching grips, without a magazine, not much more than $600-700 __________________ Edward Tinker ********** Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

08-10-2021, 10:47 PM	#2
gunnertwo User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Nampa, Idaho Posts: 605 Thanks: 803 Thanked 909 Times in 351 Posts	Welcome to the Forum. Some questions, is it matching? What is the chamber date? The details on the second pic are hidden from the great amount of oil on the gun. Could some better pics be posted? Thanks, G2

08-11-2021, 10:20 AM	#5
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,031 Thanks: 1,018 Thanked 3,873 Times in 1,184 Posts	From what is visible, an early military P08 without stock lug. What is the chamber date? Nothing wrong with discussing value on the forum. We just don't appreciate 'auctions' in the sales section and we require a sales price if a gun is posted for sale. But for assessments like these, discussing a value is no problem.

08-11-2021, 03:24 PM	#8
wayne8661 User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Kennett Square Pennsylvania Posts: 591 Thanks: 15 Thanked 334 Times in 104 Posts	Any Unit Markings on the grip strap?

08-11-2021, 06:22 PM	#9
Doubs User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Byron, Georgia Posts: 1,670 Thanks: 769 Thanked 1,611 Times in 525 Posts	The date will be 1913 or earlier - likely earlier - as it has the hold open modification and no stock lug. The directive that all Lugers were to have the hold open from the factory was issued on 6 May, 1913. Earlier guns were to be retrofit by the Royal Erfurt Rifle Arsenal with the hold open. Not all earlier guns were as they were not all returned to be modified.