Luger DWM 7,65

juaneli · 07-30-2012, 11:32 PM

Good day, sorry, I just inherited a gun DWM be 30 gauge or 7.65 this weapon has 3 engravings, 2 on the left and 1 on the front of the handle, a little shield with an N in the canyon and on one side, the insurance is written the word GESICHERT has grips with the Nazi shield, its serial number is 6889 and the number 89 in parts, but more curious is that it has the presidential seal of the USA and says PRESIDENT OF tHE UNITED STATES, my question is, if this weapon may have historical value?

alanint · 07-31-2012, 05:59 AM

Juaneli, welcome to the Luger site!

You need to post photos directly to the site in order for us to see them. It sounds like a commercial Luger, possibly an American Eagle Luger, but the rest sounds like someone did some engraving on their own. Does your pistol have a grip safety?
I can assure you that NO President of the United States owned a Luger that had "grips with the Nazi Shield".
We need to see your photos.

sheepherder · 07-31-2012, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by alanint

I can assure you that NO President of the United States owned a Luger that had "grips with the Nazi Shield".

Let's not be hasty...The term isn't over yet...

John, welcome! Pics are a necessity to correctly identify your Luger. If you don't have a digital camera, a scanner will work (with a towel draped over the Luger).

nukem556 · 07-31-2012, 08:16 AM

haaaa you go, Rich...although I'd think a hammer and sickle more appropos

Ron Wood · 07-31-2012, 11:03 AM

John,
Your Luger is a 1920's Commercial that has been "dressed up" by a private individual. It has no association with any US president. The grips are typical of the type made in Mexico by the Taxco silversmiths. The presidential seal on the chamber looks similar to the roll engraved seal on American Eagle Lugers, but the eagle on your gun is smaller and the entire seal has been hand engraved. All of the engraving on the pistol is nicely done and of better quality that you usually see on guns engraved in Mexico, but I am relatively sure that is where all of the modifications to the Luger were performed.
Ron

ithacaartist · 07-31-2012, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron Wood

John,
...The grips are typical of the type made in Mexico by the Taxco silversmiths. The presidential seal on the chamber looks similar to the roll engraved seal on American Eagle Lugers, but the eagle on your gun is smaller and the entire seal has been hand engraved. ...
Ron

Forgive, please, but I don't see any pics for this post--or a link to any. Ron, have you been using your long-distance X-ray vision?

Ron Wood · 07-31-2012, 07:16 PM

Right click on the box with the red X in it and select "Open link" in the pop up window. Either that or wave a chicken foot at the screen while chanting...open...open...open. (doesn't work all of the time)

alanint · 07-31-2012, 08:06 PM

The "Presidential Seal" looks acid etched......

07-30-2012, 11:32 PM	#1
juaneli New User Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Durango México Posts: 1 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Luger DWM 7,65 Good day, sorry, I just inherited a gun DWM be 30 gauge or 7.65 this weapon has 3 engravings, 2 on the left and 1 on the front of the handle, a little shield with an N in the canyon and on one side, the insurance is written the word GESICHERT has grips with the Nazi shield, its serial number is 6889 and the number 89 in parts, but more curious is that it has the presidential seal of the USA and says PRESIDENT OF tHE UNITED STATES, my question is, if this weapon may have historical value?

07-31-2012, 11:03 AM	#5
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,017 Thanks: 1,089 Thanked 5,162 Times in 1,699 Posts	John, Your Luger is a 1920's Commercial that has been "dressed up" by a private individual. It has no association with any US president. The grips are typical of the type made in Mexico by the Taxco silversmiths. The presidential seal on the chamber looks similar to the roll engraved seal on American Eagle Lugers, but the eagle on your gun is smaller and the entire seal has been hand engraved. All of the engraving on the pistol is nicely done and of better quality that you usually see on guns engraved in Mexico, but I am relatively sure that is where all of the modifications to the Luger were performed. Ron __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

07-31-2012, 07:16 PM	#7
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,017 Thanks: 1,089 Thanked 5,162 Times in 1,699 Posts	Right click on the box with the red X in it and select "Open link" in the pop up window. Either that or wave a chicken foot at the screen while chanting...open...open...open. (doesn't work all of the time) __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

07-31-2012, 05:59 AM	#2
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	Juaneli, welcome to the Luger site! You need to post photos directly to the site in order for us to see them. It sounds like a commercial Luger, possibly an American Eagle Luger, but the rest sounds like someone did some engraving on their own. Does your pistol have a grip safety? I can assure you that NO President of the United States owned a Luger that had "grips with the Nazi Shield". We need to see your photos.

07-31-2012, 08:16 AM	#4
nukem556 User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Irmo, SC Posts: 625 Thanks: 35 Thanked 168 Times in 107 Posts	haaaa you go, Rich...although I'd think a hammer and sickle more appropos

07-31-2012, 08:06 PM	#8
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	The "Presidential Seal" looks acid etched......