.45 P38 (really)

Roadkill · 06-12-2003, 09:19 PM

Thor · 06-12-2003, 10:15 PM

Martz made his 45 Lugers by offset cutting two shooter Lugers just off the centerline and welding the two larger halves back together to make a WIDER gun, the receiver and barrel were somewhat different, I am sure he made, or had made custom barrels. The 45 P.38 MIGHT have been done similarly. The one 45 Luger I saw at Ralph's was listed at $5000 and I would have bought in a heartbeat has I had the funds. Lot of work in that piece and it was flawless from outward appearance.

MarkC · 06-14-2003, 12:32 AM

Thor,

See the new posts on the P38 forum... some fun.... Hmmmmm

Mark

Jim Keenan · 06-15-2003, 01:33 AM

Interesting and no, I have never seen a .45 P.38 either, but I don't doubt the ability of any reasonably good machinist to make one given time and money. There should be no doubt that the Chinese are capable of both copying and doing original design work.

Why would such a pistol be made? A pre-production prototype is one possibility, maybe for a project that was shelved after the U.S. banned import of pistols from China.

An expensive fake? Maybe, but a faker would surely have put Walther's name on the gun and passed it off as an unknown, but possible, prototype of a gun that was actually advertised in the U.S. before WWII.

Jim

Ron Wood · 06-15-2003, 01:55 AM

It is EXTREMELY unlikely, but wouldn't it be a hoot if this ".45 P.38" was actually one of the experimental .45 cal Walther Model MP made prior to WWII that somehow made its way to China where it picked up some Chinese graffiti?! Check out Lot #374 on Greg Martin's auction. There is a link to the auction in a post by Pete Ebbink under "Gun Show Announcements and Discussion"

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Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Martz made his 45 Lugers by offset cutting two shooter Lugers just off the centerline and welding the two larger halves back together to make a WIDER gun, the receiver and barrel were somewhat different, I am sure he made, or had made custom barrels. The 45 P.38 MIGHT have been done similarly. The one 45 Luger I saw at Ralph's was listed at $5000 and I would have bought in a heartbeat has I had the funds. Lot of work in that piece and it was flawless from outward appearance. __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

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Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,020 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,173 Times in 1,701 Posts	It is EXTREMELY unlikely, but wouldn't it be a hoot if this ".45 P.38" was actually one of the experimental .45 cal Walther Model MP made prior to WWII that somehow made its way to China where it picked up some Chinese graffiti?! Check out Lot #374 on Greg Martin's auction. There is a link to the auction in a post by Pete Ebbink under "Gun Show Announcements and Discussion" __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

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MarkC User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 478 Thanks: 1 Thanked 109 Times in 26 Posts	Thor, See the new posts on the P38 forum... some fun.... Hmmmmm Mark

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Jim Keenan User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 184 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Interesting and no, I have never seen a .45 P.38 either, but I don't doubt the ability of any reasonably good machinist to make one given time and money. There should be no doubt that the Chinese are capable of both copying and doing original design work. Why would such a pistol be made? A pre-production prototype is one possibility, maybe for a project that was shelved after the U.S. banned import of pistols from China. An expensive fake? Maybe, but a faker would surely have put Walther's name on the gun and passed it off as an unknown, but possible, prototype of a gun that was actually advertised in the U.S. before WWII. Jim