What were they thinkin' ??

Ron Smith · 04-01-2010, 04:21 PM

Somali pirates opened fire on the Guided Missile Frigate U.S.S. Nicholas. These ships carry more firepower than a WWII Battle ship.

Kind of like kicking a Bull in the Nards, but much less productive.

There just ain't a cure for Stupid. GO NAVY !

MJRiggs · 04-01-2010, 04:49 PM

Just an example of God putting a filter on the gene pool.

Curly1 · 04-01-2010, 04:55 PM

Was there a happy ending with us sinking them?

sheepherder · 04-01-2010, 06:40 PM

Hmmmm...No hot links in your post for inquiring minds, so here's CBS's unbiased report...

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/...n6354292.shtml

StarOfTheWest · 04-01-2010, 07:57 PM

Bwahahahahaha!!!

Edward Tinker · 04-01-2010, 10:57 PM

Quote:

The USS Nicholas, a guided missile frigate, was tracking the pirates when they opened fire early Thursday in Indian Ocean waters, the U.S. military said. The Nicholas, which saw combat in the first Gulf War, returned fire and disabled the skiff.

heh, heh

sheepherder · 04-02-2010, 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Smith

What were they thinkin' ??

I'm not sure about other locales, but around here a "skiff" is about 8' or maybe 10' long...What are these imbeciles doing in the *ocean* with a boat that small???

...And what is a "mothership" to a skiff??? A houseboat???

alvin · 04-02-2010, 09:06 AM

Firing an expansive missle on a scrap pirate boat is not cost effective.

Ron Smith · 04-02-2010, 09:39 AM

Alvin,

They wouldn't have fired a missile. They would have used M60 or .50 cal. machine guns, or possibly a Phalanx chain gun. This ship is also armed with a 5"x54 auto loading gun mount.

Using 2 or 3 .50 cal machine guns on a Skiff would severely dampen their day, and you might say it would ruin it completely. Even an M60 would make a mess.

"And what is a "mothership" to a skiff??? A houseboat???"

"Beer Barge"

A fishing trawler.

Ron

RichSr · 04-02-2010, 02:38 PM

A Missile may be "EXPENSIVE" but cannot be expansive

alvin · 04-02-2010, 05:44 PM

Good point on spelling. I am astonished that I have spelled it wrong for many years.

As gas price being so high, driving such a big warship around the world must cost something. What does this ship burn?..... not coal, I did not see chimney and black smoke.

Ron Smith · 04-02-2010, 07:06 PM

It has twin 2500 H.P. gas turbine engines that burn JP5 or JP7 jet fuel, which is basically kerosene. The older ships were steam powered and burned bunker(black)oil.

Steam powered ships that burned bunker oil were not supposed to smoke at all. In fact they kept a close eye the stacks , and when they saw either black or white smoke , they would contact the boiler room and tell them "Your burning black" or "Your burning white" so that they could adjust the mixture. Smoke gives your position away.

When I watch an old war movies showing ships beltching plumbs of smoke I kind of get a chuckle out of it. It's like telling enemy ships, "Shoot here".

Ron

newluger · 04-02-2010, 08:22 PM

I'm kinda suprised that we dont have one or two of our subs patrolling that area, and when the pirates decide to pull a job, that we don't sink them.

Just a thought

Newluger

tomaustin · 04-02-2010, 09:06 PM

proportions and leave a BIG hole in the ocean.....

tomaustin · 04-02-2010, 09:11 PM

would also be expansive.............

pitsword · 04-02-2010, 09:15 PM

When I was a kid Squid riding the diesel boats (1963-1966), all that we had on westpac was M2 .50cals. That did work very well on bumboats and sampans. However, our old Boats were made to run on top and provided a somewhat stable gun platform. The new Boats are made to run under and are a big roller on the surface. Torpedoes and missiles are too expensive for a "skiff". The standard small arm, mouse gun, just can't do it. That is why the "targets" get the glory. Remember, only Two kind of vessels in our Navy, Submarines and targets. Best to all,
pitsword

BogeyB · 04-02-2010, 09:37 PM

Ron,

The Navy took the missile launchers from the Hazard Class frigates. They only have guns now.

Mike

dond · 04-03-2010, 11:26 AM

Attached are some pics of the sad fate of the USS Buchanan (DDG-14), which was used for target practice (not sure exactly what weapon/weapons caused the damage). Mount 51 (5", 54 Cal.) is visible in the pic of the Port Bow. The 5", 54's (rapid fire) replaced the 5", 38's of WW2 fame. Wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of either!
Best Regards, Don

Ron Smith · 04-03-2010, 12:19 PM

When we were on the gun line, we had a hang-fire in mount 52. Primer was punched, but it didn't go bang.

After about a 30 min. wait, a 3rd Class Boatswain's Mate named Ike Issacson volunteered to climb into the mount and extract the hot canister. He carried it out and threw it over the side. When we got back, he was awarded the Navy Commendation medal for valor.

conehammer · 04-03-2010, 12:25 PM

Quote:

The U.S. Africa Command said the five pirates seized Thursday would remain in U.S. custody on board the frigate for now.

Make them walk the plank!

Arrrrrrr

Jerry

04-01-2010, 04:21 PM	#1
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	What were they thinkin' ?? Somali pirates opened fire on the Guided Missile Frigate U.S.S. Nicholas. These ships carry more firepower than a WWII Battle ship. Kind of like kicking a Bull in the Nards, but much less productive. There just ain't a cure for Stupid. GO NAVY ! Attached Thumbnails __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said... Last edited by Ron Smith; 04-01-2010 at 05:23 PM.

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04-02-2010, 09:39 AM	#9
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Alvin, They wouldn't have fired a missile. They would have used M60 or .50 cal. machine guns, or possibly a Phalanx chain gun. This ship is also armed with a 5"x54 auto loading gun mount. Using 2 or 3 .50 cal machine guns on a Skiff would severely dampen their day, and you might say it would ruin it completely. Even an M60 would make a mess. "And what is a "mothership" to a skiff??? A houseboat???" "Beer Barge" A fishing trawler. Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

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RichSr User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: West Texas Posts: 128 Thanks: 153 Thanked 54 Times in 36 Posts	A Missile may be "EXPENSIVE" but cannot be expansive __________________ Rich

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MJRiggs User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: SE Virginia Posts: 47 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Just an example of God putting a filter on the gene pool.

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sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,183 Thanks: 1,400 Thanked 4,442 Times in 2,330 Posts	Hmmmm...No hot links in your post for inquiring minds, so here's CBS's unbiased report... http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/...n6354292.shtml

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alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	Firing an expansive missle on a scrap pirate boat is not cost effective.

04-02-2010, 05:44 PM	#11
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	Good point on spelling. I am astonished that I have spelled it wrong for many years. As gas price being so high, driving such a big warship around the world must cost something. What does this ship burn?..... not coal, I did not see chimney and black smoke.

04-02-2010, 07:06 PM	#12
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	It has twin 2500 H.P. gas turbine engines that burn JP5 or JP7 jet fuel, which is basically kerosene. The older ships were steam powered and burned bunker(black)oil. Steam powered ships that burned bunker oil were not supposed to smoke at all. In fact they kept a close eye the stacks , and when they saw either black or white smoke , they would contact the boiler room and tell them "Your burning black" or "Your burning white" so that they could adjust the mixture. Smoke gives your position away. When I watch an old war movies showing ships beltching plumbs of smoke I kind of get a chuckle out of it. It's like telling enemy ships, "Shoot here". Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

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newluger User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Franklin Tennessee Posts: 119 Thanks: 22 Thanked 10 Times in 7 Posts	I'm kinda suprised that we dont have one or two of our subs patrolling that area, and when the pirates decide to pull a job, that we don't sink them. Just a thought Newluger

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tomaustin Lifer X5 Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: texas Posts: 708 Thanks: 87 Thanked 522 Times in 201 Posts	expansive would imply a device which would grow to gigantic proportions and leave a BIG hole in the ocean..... Last edited by tomaustin; 04-02-2010 at 09:08 PM. Reason: spelling

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tomaustin Lifer X5 Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: texas Posts: 708 Thanks: 87 Thanked 522 Times in 201 Posts	P.S. i would hope anything expensive in the way of a missile would also be expansive.............

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pitsword User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Southern Maine Posts: 459 Thanks: 3,964 Thanked 103 Times in 83 Posts	When I was a kid Squid riding the diesel boats (1963-1966), all that we had on westpac was M2 .50cals. That did work very well on bumboats and sampans. However, our old Boats were made to run on top and provided a somewhat stable gun platform. The new Boats are made to run under and are a big roller on the surface. Torpedoes and missiles are too expensive for a "skiff". The standard small arm, mouse gun, just can't do it. That is why the "targets" get the glory. Remember, only Two kind of vessels in our Navy, Submarines and targets. Best to all, pitsword

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BogeyB Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Mc Donough, GA. Posts: 420 Thanks: 0 Thanked 222 Times in 96 Posts	Ron, The Navy took the missile launchers from the Hazard Class frigates. They only have guns now. Mike __________________ MAGA Always!! NRA Benifactor, GCA

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dond User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 34 Thanks: 10 Thanked 12 Times in 4 Posts	Attached are some pics of the sad fate of the USS Buchanan (DDG-14), which was used for target practice (not sure exactly what weapon/weapons caused the damage). Mount 51 (5", 54 Cal.) is visible in the pic of the Port Bow. The 5", 54's (rapid fire) replaced the 5", 38's of WW2 fame. Wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of either! Best Regards, Don Attached Thumbnails

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Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	When we were on the gun line, we had a hang-fire in mount 52. Primer was punched, but it didn't go bang. After about a 30 min. wait, a 3rd Class Boatswain's Mate named Ike Issacson volunteered to climb into the mount and extract the hot canister. He carried it out and threw it over the side. When we got back, he was awarded the Navy Commendation medal for valor. __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...