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Ted · 04-23-2001, 11:34 AM

Here is the first of two take down levers with holes in them. Anyone else see this and wonder why it was done and "who done it"

http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/TDhole2.jpg

Ted · 04-23-2001, 11:34 AM

Here is the other picture!

http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/TDhole1.jpg

DAVID · 04-23-2001, 11:37 AM

How does that hole line up with the retaining spring in the take down lever?? David.

Ted · 04-23-2001, 12:06 PM

Neither of the two examples line up with the retainage spring in the lever. Both are well to the right of it.

Ted · 04-23-2001, 12:07 PM

Should have said LEVER, not TOOL in the previous messages.

John Sabato · 04-23-2001, 12:13 PM

Ted · 04-23-2001, 12:24 PM

i dont know, I have neither with me. One was a gun I redid and other was posted on another forum, so "beats me"

John Sabato · 04-23-2001, 12:29 PM

that maybe someone intended to tap the holes and install set screws. Not to keep the lever from dropping down, but perhaps to improve the tightness of fit of the sideplate so that the trigger pull would be more consistent.

just my $0.02

-John

Ted · 04-23-2001, 12:38 PM

Your purty smart dude

04-23-2001, 12:38 PM

The holes were put there by the manufacturers so that the Luger Forum would have something to discuss in the future. Ever heard of Time Travel they are amoung us.

04-23-2001, 12:41 PM

Forgot are these on Imports or original Lugers?

Marvin · 04-23-2001, 01:03 PM

I have seen this same type hole in a Luger book. The author did not know the meaning or what it was put there for. This is interesting as to why????

Marvin

Hugh · 04-23-2001, 02:26 PM

Loks lik a infestation of "steel worms" ta me. This kin b a vry serus situashion as ther is no nown kure an onct they git startd they go rampant an eat up yore hole gun.

04-23-2001, 04:59 PM

I like John's set screw idea, but I'd never go to that trouble to improve locking fit, when there are easier ways. More likely, on levers that fit too tightly, a tool or pin punch was inserted in the hole to lower and raise lever.

Ted · 04-23-2001, 05:12 PM

Tom, have you seen this before? Certainly this has surfaced before now, or is it a recent import thing?

04-23-2001, 07:25 PM

Tom's idea sounds about right - we have all seen those screwdriver witness marks on takedown levers.

Johnny Peppers · 04-23-2001, 09:24 PM

Probably 95% of the Lugers out there show screwdriver marks on the takedown lever and frame from attempts to unlatch the lever without knowing the correct procedure. I have seen some bent down at 45 degree angles, probably after takeing the advice "get a bigger hammer". These holes could have also been the misguided attempts to look inside to see what had that darned lever locked into postition.

John Sabato · 04-24-2001, 04:29 PM

Knowing how difficult it is to fit a new sideplate, how would you improve fit of the trigger control components easier than stabilizing the installed sideplate with a setscrew through the lever end?

The only way my tired mind can see would be by swapping of components until you got a good fit, (assuming that you had a pool of parts to try...)

04-23-2001, 11:34 AM	#1
Ted User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: SC Posts: 726 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Take Down Tool Hole Here is the first of two take down levers with holes in them. Anyone else see this and wonder why it was done and "who done it" http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/TDhole2.jpg

04-23-2001, 11:34 AM	#2
Ted User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: SC Posts: 726 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Take Down Tool Hole Here is the other picture! http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/TDhole1.jpg

04-23-2001, 11:37 AM	#3
DAVID User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Debary, FL. Posts: 129 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Take Down Tool Hole How does that hole line up with the retaining spring in the take down lever?? David.

04-23-2001, 12:06 PM	#4
Ted User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: SC Posts: 726 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Take Down Tool Hole Neither of the two examples line up with the retainage spring in the lever. Both are well to the right of it.

04-23-2001, 12:07 PM	#5
Ted User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: SC Posts: 726 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Take Down LEVER Should have said LEVER, not TOOL in the previous messages.

04-23-2001, 12:13 PM	#6
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Ted, the photos are not very clear, but are either hole tapped? (EOM)

04-23-2001, 12:24 PM	#7
Ted User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: SC Posts: 726 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Ted, the photos are not very clear, but are either hole tapped? i dont know, I have neither with me. One was a gun I redid and other was posted on another forum, so "beats me"

04-23-2001, 12:29 PM	#8
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	In that case, My guess would be that maybe someone intended to tap the holes and install set screws. Not to keep the lever from dropping down, but perhaps to improve the tightness of fit of the sideplate so that the trigger pull would be more consistent. just my $0.02 -John

04-23-2001, 12:38 PM	#9
Ted User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: SC Posts: 726 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: In that case, My guess would be Your purty smart dude

04-23-2001, 12:38 PM	#10
Tracy Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Take Down Tool Hole The holes were put there by the manufacturers so that the Luger Forum would have something to discuss in the future. Ever heard of Time Travel they are amoung us.

04-23-2001, 12:41 PM	#11
Tracy Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Take Down Tool Hole Forgot are these on Imports or original Lugers?

04-23-2001, 01:03 PM	#12
Marvin User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Upstate S.C. Posts: 1,132 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Take Down Tool Hole I have seen this same type hole in a Luger book. The author did not know the meaning or what it was put there for. This is interesting as to why???? Marvin

04-23-2001, 02:26 PM	#13
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 165 Times in 64 Posts	Re: Take Down Tool Hole Loks lik a infestation of "steel worms" ta me. This kin b a vry serus situashion as ther is no nown kure an onct they git startd they go rampant an eat up yore hole gun.

04-23-2001, 04:59 PM	#14
tom heller Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Take Down Tool Hole I like John's set screw idea, but I'd never go to that trouble to improve locking fit, when there are easier ways. More likely, on levers that fit too tightly, a tool or pin punch was inserted in the hole to lower and raise lever.

04-23-2001, 05:12 PM	#15
Ted User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: SC Posts: 726 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Take Down Tool Hole Tom, have you seen this before? Certainly this has surfaced before now, or is it a recent import thing?

04-23-2001, 07:25 PM	#16
REB Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Take Down Tool Hole Tom's idea sounds about right - we have all seen those screwdriver witness marks on takedown levers.

04-23-2001, 09:24 PM	#17
Johnny Peppers User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Calion, Arkansas Posts: 1,042 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Take Down Tool Hole Probably 95% of the Lugers out there show screwdriver marks on the takedown lever and frame from attempts to unlatch the lever without knowing the correct procedure. I have seen some bent down at 45 degree angles, probably after takeing the advice "get a bigger hammer". These holes could have also been the misguided attempts to look inside to see what had that darned lever locked into postition.

04-24-2001, 04:29 PM	#18
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Tom? What is an easier way to improve locking fit? Knowing how difficult it is to fit a new sideplate, how would you improve fit of the trigger control components easier than stabilizing the installed sideplate with a setscrew through the lever end? The only way my tired mind can see would be by swapping of components until you got a good fit, (assuming that you had a pool of parts to try...)