My First Luger. Want A WWII

1911 · 08-30-2005, 05:40 PM

I am looking to buy a luger to shoot and for a collector piece. I want one that actually saw service in wwii. I am thinking a 4 inch bbl might be best for me. How much should I expect to spend? I have heard the following about lugers: By design they are one of the hardest kicking handguns and even kick harder then a 454 casual and are as loud or louder then them as well. I dont see how that is possible if it is a 9mm? I have also heard that if you hold the trigger they will fire full auto. Is any of that true? Thanks

Ron Wood · 08-30-2005, 06:45 PM

None of it is true, someone has been feeding you a line that you could use to fertilize your garden.

Edward Tinker · 08-30-2005, 07:05 PM

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Originally posted by 1911
I am looking to buy a luger to shoot and for a collector piece. I want one that actually saw service in wwii.

first, many WW1 and also Weimar era guns saw WW2 service, so it might be best to study this board, and buy several of the good books out there to decide exactly what you want.

Don't go by the rumor mill, try to go by facts,

as many gun shops have no clue about lugers, they are all the same to them...

Shooter price, ABOUT $600 maybe less, maybe more, collectable gun, $600-$1200 and up....

Ed

1911 · 08-30-2005, 07:54 PM

What other weapon could the recoil on the luger be compared too a glock 17? Was there ever a model that kicked massively or was extremly loud? Thanks

Edward Tinker · 08-30-2005, 08:07 PM

any light weapon appears to kick more than a heavier weapon. So, a detonics 45 kicks a lot more than 1911A1.

Is that what you are looking for, a 9mm that kicks?

to me, a 45 pushes back, while a 9mm has more of a crack to the wrist effect.

Ed

Ron Wood · 08-30-2005, 10:01 PM

If you shoot 1911s, any Luger ever produced will seem like a *****cat by comparison. There were no models that kicked massively or were extremely loud. As Ed has stated, the recoil impuse may seem a bit more "whippy" than a .45 because of the lash of the toggle action, but it isn't a hand cannon.

pipeman45 · 08-31-2005, 12:09 AM

I'll wade in here and add my 2 cents. Being a long time shooter of the 9mm, and a true lover of all things 1911. I'll have to say the first round I touched off in a Luger surprised me. It didn't kick as much as it jumped up and back. Very quick compared to other 9mm's and nothing like the shove of a 1911. As far as being hard on the ears, not any worse than any 4" 9mm. All guns are going hurt your ears if you don't wear hearing protection, just ask any old timer. That is if we can hear the question.

Johnny C. Kitchens · 09-01-2005, 12:43 AM

One thing you can do, is go to the "Luger Videos" section and watch the Luger actually firing. You can see that the recoil isn't much to get excited about...

trigger643 · 09-01-2005, 11:02 PM

Having fired many different handguns (and owned most of them), I find nothing peculiar of the Luger, really. It is a wonderful natural aiming weapon and a real pleasure to shoot and like most folks on this board I've shot 1,000's, if not 10,000's of rounds through them. Felt recoil is really not significant. It does like to throw up it's muzzle, but this action (I perceive), is due primarily to the reward and upward motion of the toggle and easily controllable.

Rod WMG · 09-10-2005, 05:23 PM

I've been out of town and I'm just getting to this.

As you've been told, for an experienced shooter, the recoil is practically negligible. I do find the blast from smaller caliber, faster moving calibers to be rather sharp. Some powders are worse than others for decibel levels.

In general the 9mm Luger is a *****cat to shoot.

lugerholsterrepair · 09-10-2005, 06:12 PM

I have a parts Luger that will occasionally fire twice or even three cartidges on one trigger pull. I have looked it over and cannot determine why...When this does happen, it is so fast that one wonders what went on. Something! but untill you recognize what, it seems a mystery. Muzzle rise is not that much even with three shots going off. Lugers are very enjoyable to shoot. I prefer the .30 Luger but due to it's high cost I only shoot one occasionally. Jerry Burney

pipeman45 · 09-11-2005, 02:20 AM

Jerry. I'm sure you know this but "Please be careful with that pistol". If the first round of one of those strings happens to be a squib, it could cause all kinds of nasty and unpleasant things to happen to the gun and it's shooter. Be safe.

08-30-2005, 05:40 PM	#1
1911 New User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: PA Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	My First Luger. Want A WWII I am looking to buy a luger to shoot and for a collector piece. I want one that actually saw service in wwii. I am thinking a 4 inch bbl might be best for me. How much should I expect to spend? I have heard the following about lugers: By design they are one of the hardest kicking handguns and even kick harder then a 454 casual and are as loud or louder then them as well. I dont see how that is possible if it is a 9mm? I have also heard that if you hold the trigger they will fire full auto. Is any of that true? Thanks

08-30-2005, 06:45 PM	#2
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,986 Thanks: 1,065 Thanked 5,088 Times in 1,674 Posts	None of it is true, someone has been feeding you a line that you could use to fertilize your garden. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

08-30-2005, 10:01 PM	#6
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,986 Thanks: 1,065 Thanked 5,088 Times in 1,674 Posts	If you shoot 1911s, any Luger ever produced will seem like a *****cat by comparison. There were no models that kicked massively or were extremely loud. As Ed has stated, the recoil impuse may seem a bit more "whippy" than a .45 because of the lash of the toggle action, but it isn't a hand cannon. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

08-31-2005, 12:09 AM	#7
pipeman45 User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Kentucky Posts: 539 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I'll wade in here and add my 2 cents. Being a long time shooter of the 9mm, and a true lover of all things 1911. I'll have to say the first round I touched off in a Luger surprised me. It didn't kick as much as it jumped up and back. Very quick compared to other 9mm's and nothing like the shove of a 1911. As far as being hard on the ears, not any worse than any 4" 9mm. All guns are going hurt your ears if you don't wear hearing protection, just ask any old timer. That is if we can hear the question. __________________ Dave

09-01-2005, 12:43 AM	#8
Johnny C. Kitchens User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Arlington, Texas Posts: 518 Thanks: 0 Thanked 20 Times in 8 Posts	One thing you can do, is go to the "Luger Videos" section and watch the Luger actually firing. You can see that the recoil isn't much to get excited about... __________________ Johnny C. Kitchens

08-30-2005, 07:54 PM	#4
1911 New User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: PA Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	What other weapon could the recoil on the luger be compared too a glock 17? Was there ever a model that kicked massively or was extremly loud? Thanks

08-30-2005, 08:07 PM	#5
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,909 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,500 Times in 2,076 Posts	any light weapon appears to kick more than a heavier weapon. So, a detonics 45 kicks a lot more than 1911A1. Is that what you are looking for, a 9mm that kicks? to me, a 45 pushes back, while a 9mm has more of a crack to the wrist effect. Ed

09-01-2005, 11:02 PM	#9
trigger643 User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Murfreesboro Posts: 502 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Having fired many different handguns (and owned most of them), I find nothing peculiar of the Luger, really. It is a wonderful natural aiming weapon and a real pleasure to shoot and like most folks on this board I've shot 1,000's, if not 10,000's of rounds through them. Felt recoil is really not significant. It does like to throw up it's muzzle, but this action (I perceive), is due primarily to the reward and upward motion of the toggle and easily controllable. __________________ "There are three reasons to own a gun: To protect yourself and your family, to hunt dangerous and delicious animals, and to keep the King of England out of your face." Ã¢?? Krusty the Clown

09-10-2005, 05:23 PM	#10
Rod WMG User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Edge of Texas Posts: 514 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I've been out of town and I'm just getting to this. As you've been told, for an experienced shooter, the recoil is practically negligible. I do find the blast from smaller caliber, faster moving calibers to be rather sharp. Some powders are worse than others for decibel levels. In general the 9mm Luger is a *****cat to shoot.

09-10-2005, 06:12 PM	#11
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,760 Thanks: 4,848 Thanked 3,099 Times in 1,426 Posts	I have a parts Luger that will occasionally fire twice or even three cartidges on one trigger pull. I have looked it over and cannot determine why...When this does happen, it is so fast that one wonders what went on. Something! but untill you recognize what, it seems a mystery. Muzzle rise is not that much even with three shots going off. Lugers are very enjoyable to shoot. I prefer the .30 Luger but due to it's high cost I only shoot one occasionally. Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

09-11-2005, 02:20 AM	#12
pipeman45 User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Kentucky Posts: 539 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Jerry. I'm sure you know this but "Please be careful with that pistol". If the first round of one of those strings happens to be a squib, it could cause all kinds of nasty and unpleasant things to happen to the gun and it's shooter. Be safe. __________________ Dave