'Die Pistole 08', short 6-page manual

Vlim · 03-05-2005, 01:01 PM

Hi,

Received this one today.
Published in march, 1938 by Ludwig Voggenreiter Verlag in Potsdam.

It's basically a quick reference card style manual for the P08 and it discussed the overall functioning, parts, maintenance and how to resolve problems.

So far, nice but not spectacular.

What is interesting, is the handwritten remark on the top of page 1. This book appears to have been the property of
'Flieger Wolf, 3/FEA 13/11 Gruppen'
(Pilot Wolf, 3/FEA 13/11th group'

FEA 13 was the 13th division of the 3rd Flieger Ersatz Abteilung, a pilot instruction school in Oschatz, Germany. The training facility operated between 1936 and 1944.

John D.: This mr. Wolf may have been draggin along one of those anchor-thingies

Freischütz · 03-09-2005, 10:21 PM

The helmet penetration comment is interesting

pisto · 03-10-2005, 05:29 AM

Great,
another interesting paper acessorie I didn t know and did not seen before!

Vlim · 03-11-2005, 12:26 PM

Hi Roland,

It surprises me somewhat that so many different sources were used for training purposes, especially those of a commercial nature.

One would expect the use of army manuals...

the gunman · 03-11-2005, 04:53 PM

Hi Gerben
You sure have a wonderful gift of turning up these wonderful items.

pisto · 03-12-2005, 03:09 PM

Gerben, may be the different training purposes are because they are used in different units, like Luftwaffe, Marine, Heer??
By the way, the guys handnote "Flieger" may not be because he was a pilot - "Flieger" is the lowest starting rank in the "Luftwaffe" I dont belive that was different in that early days.

Vlim · 03-13-2005, 08:38 AM

Roland,

Good point. It does show that although we like to see things neatly catalogued and organized it's difficult to establish what was used at what occassion and at what point in time...

It appears that individual training facilities used individual documentation sources, rules, guidelines, etc...

It certainly makes the area of Luger-associated documentation a challenging one

(nice remark about the 'Flieger' rank).

03-05-2005, 01:01 PM	#1
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,032 Thanks: 1,018 Thanked 3,873 Times in 1,184 Posts	'Die Pistole 08', short 6-page manual Hi, Received this one today. Published in march, 1938 by Ludwig Voggenreiter Verlag in Potsdam. It's basically a quick reference card style manual for the P08 and it discussed the overall functioning, parts, maintenance and how to resolve problems. So far, nice but not spectacular. What is interesting, is the handwritten remark on the top of page 1. This book appears to have been the property of 'Flieger Wolf, 3/FEA 13/11 Gruppen' (Pilot Wolf, 3/FEA 13/11th group' FEA 13 was the 13th division of the 3rd Flieger Ersatz Abteilung, a pilot instruction school in Oschatz, Germany. The training facility operated between 1936 and 1944. John D.: This mr. Wolf may have been draggin along one of those anchor-thingies

03-09-2005, 10:21 PM	#2
Freischütz User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Eastern Washington Posts: 125 Thanks: 9 Thanked 26 Times in 19 Posts	The helmet penetration comment is interesting

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pisto User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 228 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Great, another interesting paper acessorie I didn t know and did not seen before!

03-11-2005, 12:26 PM	#4
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,032 Thanks: 1,018 Thanked 3,873 Times in 1,184 Posts	Hi Roland, It surprises me somewhat that so many different sources were used for training purposes, especially those of a commercial nature. One would expect the use of army manuals...

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the gunman User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Leland NC 28451 Posts: 1,017 Thanks: 1 Thanked 13 Times in 12 Posts	Hi Gerben You sure have a wonderful gift of turning up these wonderful items.

03-12-2005, 03:09 PM	#6
pisto User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 228 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Gerben, may be the different training purposes are because they are used in different units, like Luftwaffe, Marine, Heer?? By the way, the guys handnote "Flieger" may not be because he was a pilot - "Flieger" is the lowest starting rank in the "Luftwaffe" I dont belive that was different in that early days.

03-13-2005, 08:38 AM	#7
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,032 Thanks: 1,018 Thanked 3,873 Times in 1,184 Posts	Roland, Good point. It does show that although we like to see things neatly catalogued and organized it's difficult to establish what was used at what occassion and at what point in time... It appears that individual training facilities used individual documentation sources, rules, guidelines, etc... It certainly makes the area of Luger-associated documentation a challenging one (nice remark about the 'Flieger' rank).