Simson & co Indentification help

Lodin · 01-05-2011, 11:25 PM

Got thid luger from my Wife's Grandmother, I gather it,s a Simson
& co, but it's undated so I can't figure anything beyond that.
Any help from the experts would be appreciated

PICS!

Lodin · 01-05-2011, 11:27 PM

Oh, i believe that the magazine is a mis-match, the serial number on it is 8736, I forgot to take a picture of it.

Stevie · 01-06-2011, 01:15 AM

Not an expert..but I like your Luger!

sheepherder · 01-06-2011, 07:39 PM

Very nice!

Edward Tinker · 01-07-2011, 03:18 AM

Well, since I know a bit about Simson's, I can help a lot.

A couple of questions?

How is the stock lug marked (look up at the magazine well, the stock lug should be either marked eagle 6 eagle or eagle 33 eagle 33 or blank

any markings on the front grip strap?

Is the magazine marked with an eagle 6 at the top, bottom and spine?

Is the holster dated 1926?

Okay, you have an early Simson, they were made from 1925-1934, serial number 2031 is at my house and I believe it is from about 1927. So, yours would be in that time frame. The markings on the right side are acceptance and then final proof marking and are ones that I would expect.

Ed

Peter Anhalt · 01-07-2011, 05:45 AM

Nice piece, thanks for posting the pic's.

I'm no expert, but interesting that the side plate has an eagle over 6 Waffen acceptance mark as does the toggle link. Was that normal practice for Simson's.

Edward Tinker · 01-07-2011, 06:49 AM

yes, they are acceptance marked more than Erfurts. Almost every small part is marked....

mrerick · 01-07-2011, 10:54 AM

Even the grip screws are acceptance marked with an E/6 on a Simson.

You've got a nice original finish Simson that looks like it's probably all matching (except, as you mention, the magazine).

Please consider that breaking any part will considerably drop it's value, and that there were only about 11,000 Simson Lugers ever made. For that reason, I think it would be wise to clean and lubricate it with preserving gun oil, but don't consider firing it.

If you remove the grip panels, be careful not to chip the left grip near the safety lever. Many grips were broken that way.

Congratulations on a very collectible Luger!

Marc

01-05-2011, 11:25 PM	#1
Lodin New User Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Simson & co Indentification help Got thid luger from my Wife's Grandmother, I gather it,s a Simson & co, but it's undated so I can't figure anything beyond that. Any help from the experts would be appreciated PICS! Attached Thumbnails

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01-07-2011, 03:18 AM	#5
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,933 Thanks: 2,032 Thanked 4,530 Times in 2,092 Posts	Well, since I know a bit about Simson's, I can help a lot. A couple of questions? How is the stock lug marked (look up at the magazine well, the stock lug should be either marked eagle 6 eagle or eagle 33 eagle 33 or blank any markings on the front grip strap? Is the magazine marked with an eagle 6 at the top, bottom and spine? Is the holster dated 1926? Okay, you have an early Simson, they were made from 1925-1934, serial number 2031 is at my house and I believe it is from about 1927. So, yours would be in that time frame. The markings on the right side are acceptance and then final proof marking and are ones that I would expect. Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

01-07-2011, 06:49 AM	#7
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,933 Thanks: 2,032 Thanked 4,530 Times in 2,092 Posts	yes, they are acceptance marked more than Erfurts. Almost every small part is marked.... __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

01-07-2011, 10:54 AM	#8
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,909 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,110 Times in 1,510 Posts	Even the grip screws are acceptance marked with an E/6 on a Simson. You've got a nice original finish Simson that looks like it's probably all matching (except, as you mention, the magazine). Please consider that breaking any part will considerably drop it's value, and that there were only about 11,000 Simson Lugers ever made. For that reason, I think it would be wise to clean and lubricate it with preserving gun oil, but don't consider firing it. If you remove the grip panels, be careful not to chip the left grip near the safety lever. Many grips were broken that way. Congratulations on a very collectible Luger! Marc __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

01-05-2011, 11:27 PM	#2
Lodin New User Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Oh, i believe that the magazine is a mis-match, the serial number on it is 8736, I forgot to take a picture of it.

01-06-2011, 01:15 AM	#3
Stevie User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Ok. Posts: 212 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Not an expert..but I like your Luger!

01-07-2011, 05:45 AM	#6
Peter Anhalt User Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 24 Thanks: 5 Thanked 3 Times in 1 Post	Nice piece, thanks for posting the pic's. I'm no expert, but interesting that the side plate has an eagle over 6 Waffen acceptance mark as does the toggle link. Was that normal practice for Simson's.