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NoncomRetired · 11-08-2013, 09:30 PM

Good evening.....thought I would share a recent find..

It's a Bavarian MG unit, you can tell by their ski boots but look at their holsters. There are not PO8 Luger holsters, they are M1907 Dreyse holsters. I had never seen that before. So I did some research from the information on the back of the card. Wrote in May 1916 and with the post stample info:

On page 96 of Jeff Knoll's book it shows that Dreyse M1907s were issued to Ersatz MG Kompanies in both XV Korps and the 18th Korps. Now further investigation is so:

The 39th Royal Bavarian Reserve Division was a reserve infantry division of the Imperial German Army in World War I. It was raised to division status on October 2, 1914 from an ad hoc unit, "Brigade von Rekowski", and named "Division von Rekowski". On December 8, 1914 it was renamed the 39th Reserve Division. It was heavily made up of Bavarian units and on December 26, 1916 it was again renamed the 39th Royal Bavarian Reserve Division.

SO!!! at the beginning of the war, it was the 39th Inf Div and that Div was part of the XV Army Corps and they are the same MG unit and later when they were reverted back to the 39th Royal Bavarian Res Div, they still carried their pistol of issue in 1916 as the date of the photo shows, the M1907 Dreyse.

How I love research when it all comes together

NoncomRetired · 11-08-2013, 09:35 PM

Does anyone know why a few units in 1914 were issued M1907 Dreyse pistols and not PO8 Lugers?

Edward Tinker · 11-08-2013, 10:27 PM

nope, no idea but cool to do research

tomaustin · 11-08-2013, 10:42 PM

wonder which cigarette company was fronting this photo op..

Ben M. · 11-09-2013, 01:15 PM

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saab-bob · 11-09-2013, 01:31 PM

Great postcard!
No wonder every prewar German holster I have smells like tobacco smoke!

Bob

NoncomRetired · 11-09-2013, 05:38 PM

Have you ever notice that cigarettes are in almost every photo and sometimes studio shots, cigars too but.......ya never see the smoke!!!! Must have been E-cigarettes.

George Anderson · 11-09-2013, 07:09 PM

Cool photo!

GySgt1811 · 11-10-2013, 04:33 PM

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wonder which cigarette company was fronting this photo op..

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It was ever thus!

Best Regards,

Gunny John

(PS. Thanks, Bill.)

(PPS. And Happy 238th Birthday to all us Jarheads.)

NoncomRetired · 11-10-2013, 07:39 PM

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It was ever thus!

Best Regards,

Gunny John

(PS. Thanks, Bill.)

(PPS. And Happy 238th Birthday to all us Jarheads.)

Happy Birthday...junior branch!!!!

11-08-2013, 09:30 PM	#1
NoncomRetired Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 719 Thanks: 144 Thanked 306 Times in 146 Posts	I.e.m.g.k.xv.a.k.73 Good evening.....thought I would share a recent find.. It's a Bavarian MG unit, you can tell by their ski boots but look at their holsters. There are not PO8 Luger holsters, they are M1907 Dreyse holsters. I had never seen that before. So I did some research from the information on the back of the card. Wrote in May 1916 and with the post stample info: On page 96 of Jeff Knoll's book it shows that Dreyse M1907s were issued to Ersatz MG Kompanies in both XV Korps and the 18th Korps. Now further investigation is so: The 39th Royal Bavarian Reserve Division was a reserve infantry division of the Imperial German Army in World War I. It was raised to division status on October 2, 1914 from an ad hoc unit, "Brigade von Rekowski", and named "Division von Rekowski". On December 8, 1914 it was renamed the 39th Reserve Division. It was heavily made up of Bavarian units and on December 26, 1916 it was again renamed the 39th Royal Bavarian Reserve Division. SO!!! at the beginning of the war, it was the 39th Inf Div and that Div was part of the XV Army Corps and they are the same MG unit and later when they were reverted back to the 39th Royal Bavarian Res Div, they still carried their pistol of issue in 1916 as the date of the photo shows, the M1907 Dreyse. How I love research when it all comes together

11-09-2013, 01:31 PM	#6
saab-bob User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: So Cal Posts: 459 Thanks: 774 Thanked 143 Times in 87 Posts	Great postcard! No wonder every prewar German holster I have smells like tobacco smoke! Bob __________________ "I think,therefore I own guns"

11-08-2013, 09:35 PM	#2
NoncomRetired Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 719 Thanks: 144 Thanked 306 Times in 146 Posts	Does anyone know why a few units in 1914 were issued M1907 Dreyse pistols and not PO8 Lugers?

11-08-2013, 10:27 PM	#3
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,909 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,500 Times in 2,076 Posts	nope, no idea but cool to do research

11-08-2013, 10:42 PM	#4
tomaustin Lifer X5 Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: texas Posts: 708 Thanks: 87 Thanked 522 Times in 201 Posts	wonder which cigarette company was fronting this photo op..

11-09-2013, 01:15 PM	#5
Ben M. User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Retired to Naples, FL. Posts: 474 Thanks: 82 Thanked 117 Times in 79 Posts	I.e.m.g.k.xv.a.k.73 line 4 of the dmv eye chart

11-09-2013, 05:38 PM	#7
NoncomRetired Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 719 Thanks: 144 Thanked 306 Times in 146 Posts	Have you ever notice that cigarettes are in almost every photo and sometimes studio shots, cigars too but.......ya never see the smoke!!!! Must have been E-cigarettes.

11-09-2013, 07:09 PM	#8
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,769 Thanked 2,527 Times in 786 Posts	Cool photo!