Carbine by Lugerman - Page 13

lugerholsterrepair · 12-24-2015, 12:14 AM

Rich, LOVE IT! I moved it to my screen saver!

Edward Tinker · 12-24-2015, 12:16 AM

oh, thats sad...

Its my desktop picture too - my wife thought it was excellent...

Neil Young · 12-24-2015, 08:12 AM

Well Ed, at least you have the cleaning rod already.

sheepherder · 12-27-2015, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward Tinker

Eugene is promising a 'happy' christmas

That's great news, Ed!

So...When will you have pictures ready???

John Sabato · 12-28-2015, 11:53 AM

You should make a follow-up cartoon of Eugene as Lucy Brown snatching the carbine from Ed as he reached for it!

Sorry Ed... couldn't resist. I hope he gets off his butt and finishes your carbine REAL SOON NOW.

Edward Tinker · 12-28-2015, 06:27 PM

I go to pick it up on Saturday - anybody taking bets?

berkmberk1 · 12-28-2015, 06:33 PM

I'll get a good vibe going, and keep my fingers crossed for you.

(how's about asking about a certain C96 while you're there?

cirelaw · 12-28-2015, 06:36 PM

Ed, I will say a prayer for you both!!

lugerholsterrepair · 12-28-2015, 07:04 PM

taking bets? On whether it's ready or not? Fit & finish alright? Will it actually shoot? Or another half dozen bets? God bless Brother Ed, I hope it's what it's supposed to be..Personally I think the guy should bring it to your house on a red velvet pillow on bended knee.

mrerick · 12-28-2015, 07:56 PM

I am chanting a Luger Carbine completion mantra now...

With repetition it increases in power... Irresistible power...

"Escarrabin! Illegitimi non carborundum... Omm.... "

This meaningless pseudo Latin comes from the French word root ("gravedigger") of "Carbine" and the concept that you should not "let the bastards grind you down"...

Hoping for Joy!

Marc

sheepherder · 12-28-2015, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward Tinker

I go to pick it up on Saturday - anybody taking bets?

...Ed senses a stirring in The Force...

lugerholsterrepair · 12-28-2015, 08:33 PM

Oddly stimulating..and disturbing...what's that thing to the right of your head Ed? What beautiful hands you have...

cirelaw · 12-28-2015, 08:44 PM

'Res Ipsa Loquitor' and 'Caveat Emptor' and 'The facts will speak for themselves' and 'Buyer Beware' First year law school! Esq.

cirelaw · 12-28-2015, 09:08 PM

I have a serious question~~ How does he come up with a legal serial number? I'm sure there has to be some rule of law governing this situation. Must it be registered with State and or Fed agencies? Eric

CAP Black · 12-28-2015, 09:46 PM

As to serial number, mine was a makeover of a luger; so it has the original number. No creation of a number.
Since Ed has a time for pickup, it appears to be a sure thing on delivery.
If never to be shot, fine but you must still check it over thoroughly. for interior parts, fit and finish, etc.
On mine, after 8 shots the shoulder stock developed a small crack; which took several months to get resolved and then I finished up the last 15 percent or so; after I finally got it back.
If you shoot it, I wouldn't use the more powerful ammo suggested. I use the Winchester white box. Also make sure to hold securely to shoulder as the entire weapon absorbs the energy.
I fired mine only to verify that it would fire without fail.
Thanks
Jack

sheepherder · 12-28-2015, 10:03 PM

Aren't Luger carbines exempt from the ATF regulations about SBR's and detachable buttstocks???

Does anyone have the letter or the reg reference???

Edward Tinker · 12-28-2015, 10:05 PM

Jack, at first I felt that I'd like him to send it, but if Eugene made the date and time for me to come by, that would be good.

Its built on a G date, so its serial number will be built off of that...

BTW, the barrel is 16 inches, so its exempt that way... A carbine would be 12.5 inches if memory serves me right.

lugerholsterrepair · 12-28-2015, 10:09 PM

but if Eugene made the date and time for me to come by, that would be good. UHHHH OK. Did Eugene do that?

berkmberk1 · 12-28-2015, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sheepherder

Aren't Luger carbines exempt from the ATF regulations about SBR's and detachable buttstocks???

Does anyone have the letter or the reg reference???

From the ATF site -

OPEN LETTER ON THE
REDESIGN
OF STABILIZING BRACES”
The Firearms and Ammunition Technology Division (FATD), Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) has received
inquiries from the public concerning the proper use of devices
recently marketed as stabilizing braces.” These devices are
described as “a shooter’s aid that is designed to improve the single
-handed shooting performance of buffer tube equipped
pistols.” The device claims to enhance a ccuracy and reduce felt recoil
when using an AR -style pistol. These items are intended to improve accuracy by using the operator’s forearm to provide stable support for
the AR - type pistol

. ATF has previously determined that attaching the brace to a
firearm does not alter the classification of the firearm or subject the firearm to National Firearms Act (NFA) control.
However, this classification is based upon the use of the device as designed. When the device is redesigned for use as a shoulder stock on a handgun with a rifled barrel under 16 inches in length, the firearm
is properly classified as a firearm under the NFA.

By this it seems if it was ever originally made this way, its fine. If not i.e fitting a stock to a 1911, it would be "modified" and illegal without ATF approval.

Edward Tinker · 12-28-2015, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lugerholsterrepair

but if Eugene made the date and time for me to come by, that would be good. UHHHH OK. Did Eugene do that?

yes

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.
.

and its a sixteen inch barrel - Eugene makes them with 16 inch barrels - there is no exemption status if 16 inches

12-24-2015, 12:14 AM	#241
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,760 Thanks: 4,850 Thanked 3,100 Times in 1,426 Posts	Rich, LOVE IT! I moved it to my screen saver! __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

12-24-2015, 08:12 AM	#243
Neil Young Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Scottsboro, Alabama Posts: 540 Thanks: 546 Thanked 438 Times in 165 Posts	Well Ed, at least you have the cleaning rod already. __________________ Neil The hurrier I go the behinder I get. Sometimes it takes me all day to get nothing done.

12-28-2015, 11:53 AM	#245
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	You should make a follow-up cartoon of Eugene as Lucy Brown snatching the carbine from Ed as he reached for it! Sorry Ed... couldn't resist. I hope he gets off his butt and finishes your carbine REAL SOON NOW. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

12-28-2015, 06:33 PM	#247
berkmberk1 User Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Springfield, IL Posts: 49 Thanks: 0 Thanked 21 Times in 4 Posts	Get the vibe on I'll get a good vibe going, and keep my fingers crossed for you. (how's about asking about a certain C96 while you're there? __________________ Michael D. Berk SFC, USA Ret.

12-28-2015, 07:04 PM	#249
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,760 Thanks: 4,850 Thanked 3,100 Times in 1,426 Posts	taking bets? On whether it's ready or not? Fit & finish alright? Will it actually shoot? Or another half dozen bets? God bless Brother Ed, I hope it's what it's supposed to be..Personally I think the guy should bring it to your house on a red velvet pillow on bended knee. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

12-24-2015, 12:16 AM	#242
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,911 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,502 Times in 2,077 Posts	oh, thats sad... Its my desktop picture too - my wife thought it was excellent...

12-28-2015, 06:27 PM	#246
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,911 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,502 Times in 2,077 Posts	I go to pick it up on Saturday - anybody taking bets?

12-28-2015, 06:36 PM	#248
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Ed, I will say a prayer for you both!!

12-28-2015, 07:56 PM	#250
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,900 Thanks: 1,372 Thanked 3,094 Times in 1,503 Posts	I am chanting a Luger Carbine completion mantra now... With repetition it increases in power... Irresistible power... "Escarrabin! Illegitimi non carborundum... Omm.... " This meaningless pseudo Latin comes from the French word root ("gravedigger") of "Carbine" and the concept that you should not "let the bastards grind you down"... Hoping for Joy! Marc __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

12-28-2015, 08:33 PM	#252
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,760 Thanks: 4,850 Thanked 3,100 Times in 1,426 Posts	Oddly stimulating..and disturbing...what's that thing to the right of your head Ed? What beautiful hands you have... __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

12-28-2015, 08:44 PM	#253
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	'Res Ipsa Loquitor' and 'Caveat Emptor' and 'The facts will speak for themselves' and 'Buyer Beware' First year law school! Esq.

12-28-2015, 09:08 PM	#254
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	I have a serious question~~ How does he come up with a legal serial number? I'm sure there has to be some rule of law governing this situation. Must it be registered with State and or Fed agencies? Eric

12-28-2015, 09:46 PM	#255
CAP Black User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Fairmont, WV Right here in Mountaineer country and God's country Posts: 767 Thanks: 100 Thanked 168 Times in 96 Posts	As to serial number, mine was a makeover of a luger; so it has the original number. No creation of a number. Since Ed has a time for pickup, it appears to be a sure thing on delivery. If never to be shot, fine but you must still check it over thoroughly. for interior parts, fit and finish, etc. On mine, after 8 shots the shoulder stock developed a small crack; which took several months to get resolved and then I finished up the last 15 percent or so; after I finally got it back. If you shoot it, I wouldn't use the more powerful ammo suggested. I use the Winchester white box. Also make sure to hold securely to shoulder as the entire weapon absorbs the energy. I fired mine only to verify that it would fire without fail. Thanks Jack

12-28-2015, 10:03 PM	#256
sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,182 Thanks: 1,398 Thanked 4,440 Times in 2,328 Posts	Aren't Luger carbines exempt from the ATF regulations about SBR's and detachable buttstocks??? Does anyone have the letter or the reg reference??? __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...

12-28-2015, 10:05 PM	#257
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,911 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,502 Times in 2,077 Posts	Jack, at first I felt that I'd like him to send it, but if Eugene made the date and time for me to come by, that would be good. Its built on a G date, so its serial number will be built off of that... BTW, the barrel is 16 inches, so its exempt that way... A carbine would be 12.5 inches if memory serves me right.

12-28-2015, 10:09 PM	#258
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,760 Thanks: 4,850 Thanked 3,100 Times in 1,426 Posts	but if Eugene made the date and time for me to come by, that would be good. UHHHH OK. Did Eugene do that? __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."