DWM 1916 markings

exv91 · 02-01-2018, 03:11 PM

Hello, I have a 1916 DWM p08 with the markings "J.R.132.7.k.2" on the inside of the handle grip. This must be regimental/unit info. But I have no clue where to find this info.

Sorry I would gladly add a picture but I don't think newbies have full posting permissions.

Norme · 02-01-2018, 03:20 PM

Hi Eric,
Welcome to the forum! The unit Mark stands for: 132nd Infantry Regiment, 7th Company, Weapon #2.
Regards, Norm

exv91 · 02-08-2018, 07:49 AM

Thanks Norm. I'll see what i can find online. Do you know of any particular online resources that might contain more detail about that regiment/company?

Eric

DonVoigt · 02-08-2018, 08:28 AM

I don't think the info is "online"; you will likely have to buy a book or two.

roadkill1 · 02-08-2018, 09:55 AM

Found a little info on the 132nd Imperial German Infantry Regiment:

This unit was a Prussian infantry regiment, Nr. 132, or as the Prussians would have referred to it as 1.Unter=Elsässisches Infantrie=Regiment. It was established on March 24, 1881 with its headquarters and three battalions in Strasburg and remained there until the outbreak of WWI.

At the beginning of WWI, the 132nd was assigned to the 39 Infantry Division and stayed assigned to them for the entirety of WWI. The 39th Div was part of the XV Corps, 7th Imperial German Army. The 39th fought on the Western Front for all of WWI and participated in the key battles, Champagne, Flanders, Verdun, Somme, Argonne, Picardy, Arras, and Cambrai and was in the Ypres sector at the war’s conclusion.

Allied intelligence assessment of this division in 1918 was: “”The 39th is rated as a second class division. With the exception of a statement in the German communiqué of October 2, that the 132nd Regiment had displayed “unusual fighting ability” in the operations of Menin, there is nothing to show that the division had distinguished itself in any way in the fighting in 1918.””

Would love to see some pictures of this “old soldier”…..

Ron

exv91 · 02-08-2018, 10:40 AM

Thanks so much for that info, i can just imagine the sights & sounds of battle this thing has witnessed. Here are some pics. Any ideas what this piece would be worth? All parts are matching including the wood grips.

Norme · 02-08-2018, 01:14 PM

Hi Eric,
Thanks for showing photos. Your 1916 DWM looks like a nice honest gun that's seen quite a bit of service. It was made in early 1916 as it still has the unrelieved sear. Does the magazine have a matching number as well?
Regards, Norm

exv91 · 02-08-2018, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norme

Hi Eric,
Thanks for showing photos. Your 1916 DWM looks like a nice honest gun that's seen quite a bit of service. It was made in early 1916 as it still has the unrelieved sear. Does the magazine have a matching number as well?
Regards, Norm

Thank you for the info. The mag has a wooden bottom and the SN does not match. I forgot to mention, that's the only non matching part. What do you think it's worth?

Norme · 02-08-2018, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exv91

Thank you for the info. The mag has a wooden bottom and the SN does not match. I forgot to mention, that's the only non matching part. What do you think it's worth?

Difficult question Eric, value, like beauty, lies in the eye of the beholder. The unit mark is a plus, the chipped left grip is a minus, I'd say $1,500.00 or so.
Norm

wlyon · 02-08-2018, 02:58 PM

My guess $1200- $1400. But for me I place no value on unit marks. ,Bill

Zorba · 02-10-2018, 10:47 AM

Its a piece of junk and not worth anything - you need to ship it to me for proper disposal!

02-01-2018, 03:11 PM	#1
exv91 New User Join Date: Feb 2018 Posts: 4 Thanks: 6 Thanked 3 Times in 1 Post	DWM 1916 markings Hello, I have a 1916 DWM p08 with the markings "J.R.132.7.k.2" on the inside of the handle grip. This must be regimental/unit info. But I have no clue where to find this info. Sorry I would gladly add a picture but I don't think newbies have full posting permissions.

02-08-2018, 08:28 AM	#4
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,677 Thanks: 1,439 Thanked 4,347 Times in 2,038 Posts	I don't think the info is "online"; you will likely have to buy a book or two. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

02-08-2018, 10:40 AM	#6
exv91 New User Join Date: Feb 2018 Posts: 4 Thanks: 6 Thanked 3 Times in 1 Post	Thanks so much for that info, i can just imagine the sights & sounds of battle this thing has witnessed. Here are some pics. Any ideas what this piece would be worth? All parts are matching including the wood grips. Last edited by exv91; 02-08-2018 at 10:42 AM. Reason: .

02-08-2018, 02:58 PM	#10
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,614 Thanks: 3,140 Thanked 2,519 Times in 939 Posts	My guess $1200- $1400. But for me I place no value on unit marks. ,Bill __________________ Bill Lyon

02-01-2018, 03:20 PM	#2
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,414 Thanks: 224 Thanked 2,591 Times in 930 Posts	Hi Eric, Welcome to the forum! The unit Mark stands for: 132nd Infantry Regiment, 7th Company, Weapon #2. Regards, Norm

02-08-2018, 07:49 AM	#3
exv91 New User Join Date: Feb 2018 Posts: 4 Thanks: 6 Thanked 3 Times in 1 Post	Thanks Norm. I'll see what i can find online. Do you know of any particular online resources that might contain more detail about that regiment/company? Eric

02-08-2018, 09:55 AM	#5
roadkill1 Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Virginia Posts: 127 Thanks: 166 Thanked 129 Times in 63 Posts	Found a little info on the 132nd Imperial German Infantry Regiment: This unit was a Prussian infantry regiment, Nr. 132, or as the Prussians would have referred to it as 1.Unter=Elsässisches Infantrie=Regiment. It was established on March 24, 1881 with its headquarters and three battalions in Strasburg and remained there until the outbreak of WWI. At the beginning of WWI, the 132nd was assigned to the 39 Infantry Division and stayed assigned to them for the entirety of WWI. The 39th Div was part of the XV Corps, 7th Imperial German Army. The 39th fought on the Western Front for all of WWI and participated in the key battles, Champagne, Flanders, Verdun, Somme, Argonne, Picardy, Arras, and Cambrai and was in the Ypres sector at the war’s conclusion. Allied intelligence assessment of this division in 1918 was: “”The 39th is rated as a second class division. With the exception of a statement in the German communiqué of October 2, that the 132nd Regiment had displayed “unusual fighting ability” in the operations of Menin, there is nothing to show that the division had distinguished itself in any way in the fighting in 1918.”” Would love to see some pictures of this “old soldier”….. Ron

02-08-2018, 01:14 PM	#7
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,414 Thanks: 224 Thanked 2,591 Times in 930 Posts	Hi Eric, Thanks for showing photos. Your 1916 DWM looks like a nice honest gun that's seen quite a bit of service. It was made in early 1916 as it still has the unrelieved sear. Does the magazine have a matching number as well? Regards, Norm

02-10-2018, 10:47 AM	#11
Zorba User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Merritt Island, Fl Posts: 951 Thanks: 776 Thanked 526 Times in 289 Posts	Its a piece of junk and not worth anything - you need to ship it to me for proper disposal!