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11-06-2010, 06:24 PM | #1 |
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Help Please With Info on This Luger
Hi Everyone,
I'm a newbie to the site, and a newbie to Lugers. I've been lurking in the background awhile and reading lots of posts and I must say I am truly impressed with the wealth of information here, so I hope you knowledgeable people can help me with some info on this model. I'm based in the UK, so that means this model is deactivated. Our Government doesn't like its citizens to carry real firearms, thats only for the criminals. My collecting interest is in rim fires, especially Hopkins & Allen revolvers but I was at an auction recently and bid and won three Lugers. I've had a hankering for a Luger for a long while. My Father had one during WWII but had to dispose of that when he disembarked in the UK, so having one is like my personal tribute to my Father. Anyway, here goes with the photo's, hope they come out OK. Hope you can help. Regards to all, Peter |
11-06-2010, 06:31 PM | #2 |
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Ah...Well...It definitely needs a sideplate...
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11-06-2010, 06:40 PM | #3 |
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Yep about the side plate, sorry, forgot to mention that, got one on order, also, I'm going to try and get a proper replacement screw for the left hand grip, the brass one looks awful.
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Hopefully, the brass will not have buggered up the thread...(It shouldn't)...
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11-06-2010, 09:24 PM | #5 |
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Can I ask what has been done to deactivate it?
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11-07-2010, 11:05 AM | #6 |
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Peter, You didn't show the chamber top. Is there a date stamped there?
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11-07-2010, 05:11 PM | #7 |
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Can I ask what has been done to deactivate it?
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Re How was this model deactivated, I was trying to quote the original source in my reply and only posted the original source. Sorry about that, can't get the hang of posting quotes, anyway.
The model has been de-activated by a steel rod inserted at the breech end. I've taken a couple of pics, hope they come out OK. Thanks for your interest. |
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Re a date on the chamber top - no date stamp. All that shows on the top is 05 (last two numbers of the serial number) at the front of the chamber top, followed by the DWM logo and then a number 24 stamp (is the number 24 a date stamp?).
I've attached a pic of the chamber top, any info or comments would be most welcome. Please excuse the previous miss-posting, trying to get to grips with the workings of the site, think I'm getting there. Thanks, Peter |
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Can't tell if the rod was welded as well, but somebody did a quick & dirty grind of the end of the rod... Yep...I'd say that was de-activated, all right...
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11-07-2010, 07:27 PM | #11 |
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That de-ac description is bang on the money.
On this side of the blue we have stringent laws that mean for a firearm to be classified as deactivated it must be rendered beyond possible re-conversion, i.e. it must be in a state that it cannot possibly be re-worked to bring it back into a condition where it could possibly fire a live round. That normally means a gunsmith boring out a barrel or cylinder chambers. Then submitting the firearm to one of two proof houses in the UK for certification that the firearm is deactivated. I've attached a pic of a deactivated Colt Police Positive below. On this model the cylinder chambers have been bored out and the barrel blocked. I know it might look like sacrilege but the laws in this country are pretty prohibitive. Peter |
11-07-2010, 08:37 PM | #12 |
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Their should be a law preventing such mutilation of a gorgeous firearm for stupid political reasons.
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Thanks for posting the deactivation photo's, although I have to admit they made me a little sick to my stomach. I'll never look at my guns the same again.
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Ouch.....Think I'll send an x-tra donation to the NRA......Cheers, Andrew
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11-08-2010, 12:40 AM | #15 |
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How sad, what a waste
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11-08-2010, 08:43 AM | #16 |
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I too am saddened by this de-activation process...but there are those in this country [coff *Feinstein, Brady* coff] who think that melting guns down into manhole covers is the only way to stop gun crime...At least the British have attempted to preserve the mechanical function of the weapon...
You can't admire the lines of a manhole cover, or cycle its action...
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Yes, but the Brit form of banning is much more insidious. By allowing collectors to "keep' their guns, they accomplished what the libs here are trying to do. Thank God libs here want to melt down your guns into manhole covers. These extreme proposals are what have kept a US ban at bay. If the Libs here ever get more skilled at the subtle approach, we would see our gun rights erode much faster, not that they are not trying.....
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11-08-2010, 07:47 PM | #18 |
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Hi all,
I don't know if I should have started this thread, all I was asking for was some helpful advice on a Luger model. This discussion's gone off at a tangent to comment on the virtues of Brit deactivated weapons. On this side of the blue, gun ownership is something that is totally Verboten to our political masters - minimum 5 years imprisonment for illegal possession of a firearm! In the UK we don't have the right to bear arms. Our politicians took that away from us, hence we can only "play" with deactivated firearms. Sorry about that, but that's all we've got. If anyone has some info on this Luger that would be really appreciated. My thanks, Peter |
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Sorry if I distracted everyone from the original intent of your post, I didn't intend to.
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11-09-2010, 02:43 PM | #20 |
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From what I can See i would think this was a parts luger made between the wars. Maybe for sale in Briton...any British proof marks?
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