RARE Navy mag on Ebay

Doug G. · 08-01-2005, 10:54 PM

Now I have seen everything I am not a Navy collector, but this is really wrong. Anchor marked! Stamped! More like carved!
http://cgi.ebay.com/WW1-German-Luger...QQcmdZViewItem

drbuster · 08-01-2005, 11:24 PM

With the outlandish prices several questionable items have been going for lately, why not try something as preposterous (read faked) as this to make a few bucks? After all, what teeth do the ignorant e-bay "police" really have? Occasionally an illegal frame appears for auction and is not caught. Hopefully the members of this Forum are educated by our experts and will never make a mistake and bid for something so obviously spurious.

Pete Ebbink · 08-02-2005, 11:06 AM

Nope...this is the very rare magazine for the one-of-a-kind luger that belonged to "Popeye"...

...anchors away, matey...

Edward Tinker · 08-02-2005, 11:18 AM

This is the "gentleman" that convinced me to change my e-bay screen name from 66mustang, I had a couple of people think he was me, since he dealt in luger items... I felt that since he has 7 negatives (or whatever he had at the time), I would rather not compete against his rep versus mine...

Doug G. · 08-02-2005, 11:52 AM

I emailed him the following. We'll see if he updates his auction?

Quote:

You do know that the anchor marking on this mag is bogus? Real Navy mags were only marked with a Crown over M the serial number and letter and + for spare mags.

Pete Ebbink · 08-02-2005, 12:14 PM

He also is selling a black FXO mag as a HK mag :

http://cgi.ebay.com/WW11-Krieghoff-L...QQcmdZViewItem

I have offered to send him some photo scans from the Gibson HK book...

Heinz · 08-02-2005, 09:08 PM

I think this one with the anchor is probably the HK mag. Rare and desirable :-)

Doug G. · 08-03-2005, 11:58 PM

It has two bidders now. My dilemma is should I inform the bidders that the mag is bogus? I gave the seller the opportunity to correct the listing before there were any bids and he did not. What say you all?

Navy · 08-04-2005, 07:24 AM

Hi Doug,

Inform the bidders; it is the right thing to do.

Tom A

Rod WMG · 08-04-2005, 12:20 PM

Tom is correct. To allow someone to be a victim of fraud isn't right.

Doug G. · 08-04-2005, 12:23 PM

I emailed them about the mag. They can't say they weren't warned.

John Sabato · 08-04-2005, 02:55 PM

thanks for emailing them Doug.

Herr Trautman is a member of the forum, but I don't think he visits us very often... I also emailed him about this item to warn him. I don't know the other fellow...

lugerlou · 08-07-2005, 12:20 AM

John Sabato

I communicate with Gerhardt and have also emailed him about the magazine, that is sufficient warning for him.

Gerhardt usually is into good stuff only so he may have his reasons.

Lugerdoc · 08-07-2005, 05:20 PM

The anchor on the above mag is of the Jap Navy type. Other that the number being backwards, he may have just missed the nationality. TH

08-01-2005, 10:54 PM	#1
Doug G. User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 713 Thanks: 1 Thanked 53 Times in 17 Posts	RARE Navy mag on Ebay Now I have seen everything I am not a Navy collector, but this is really wrong. Anchor marked! Stamped! More like carved! http://cgi.ebay.com/WW1-German-Luger...QQcmdZViewItem

08-02-2005, 11:06 AM	#3
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Nope...this is the very rare magazine for the one-of-a-kind luger that belonged to "Popeye"......anchors away, matey...

08-04-2005, 02:55 PM	#12
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	thanks for emailing them Doug. Herr Trautman is a member of the forum, but I don't think he visits us very often... I also emailed him about this item to warn him. I don't know the other fellow... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

08-07-2005, 05:20 PM	#14
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	The anchor on the above mag is of the Jap Navy type. Other that the number being backwards, he may have just missed the nationality. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

08-01-2005, 11:24 PM	#2
drbuster User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Mateo, California Posts: 1,432 Thanks: 2 Thanked 71 Times in 56 Posts	With the outlandish prices several questionable items have been going for lately, why not try something as preposterous (read faked) as this to make a few bucks? After all, what teeth do the ignorant e-bay "police" really have? Occasionally an illegal frame appears for auction and is not caught. Hopefully the members of this Forum are educated by our experts and will never make a mistake and bid for something so obviously spurious.

08-02-2005, 11:18 AM	#4
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,911 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,502 Times in 2,077 Posts	This is the "gentleman" that convinced me to change my e-bay screen name from 66mustang, I had a couple of people think he was me, since he dealt in luger items... I felt that since he has 7 negatives (or whatever he had at the time), I would rather not compete against his rep versus mine...

08-02-2005, 12:14 PM	#6
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	He also is selling a black FXO mag as a HK mag : http://cgi.ebay.com/WW11-Krieghoff-L...QQcmdZViewItem I have offered to send him some photo scans from the Gibson HK book...

08-02-2005, 09:08 PM	#7
Heinz User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Greenville SC Posts: 1,004 Thanks: 377 Thanked 410 Times in 180 Posts	I think this one with the anchor is probably the HK mag. Rare and desirable :-)

08-03-2005, 11:58 PM	#8
Doug G. User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 713 Thanks: 1 Thanked 53 Times in 17 Posts	It has two bidders now. My dilemma is should I inform the bidders that the mag is bogus? I gave the seller the opportunity to correct the listing before there were any bids and he did not. What say you all?

08-04-2005, 07:24 AM	#9
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	Hi Doug, Inform the bidders; it is the right thing to do. Tom A

08-04-2005, 12:20 PM	#10
Rod WMG User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Edge of Texas Posts: 514 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Tom is correct. To allow someone to be a victim of fraud isn't right.

08-04-2005, 12:23 PM	#11
Doug G. User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 713 Thanks: 1 Thanked 53 Times in 17 Posts	I emailed them about the mag. They can't say they weren't warned.

08-07-2005, 12:20 AM	#13
lugerlou User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 42 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	John Sabato I communicate with Gerhardt and have also emailed him about the magazine, that is sufficient warning for him. Gerhardt usually is into good stuff only so he may have his reasons.