LugerForum Discussion Forums my profile | register | faq | search
upload photo | donate | calendar

Go Back   LugerForum Discussion Forums > Luger Discussion Forums > All P-08 Military Lugers

Reply
Thread Tools Display Modes
Unread 01-04-2023, 03:41 PM   #1
magazineman
New User
 
Join Date: Jan 2023
Posts: 4
Thanks: 0
Thanked 11 Times in 3 Posts
Talking Crusty 'ol Luger

Hello, The boys over at my usual hangout, the 1911 Pistol Forum, recommended asking you guys about this one.

I recently acquired this pretty rough, "truck gun" condition Luger in a low-value trade (a Minibike )

It has no barrel markings, but I did take pics of all visible exterior stamps.

The magazine is a modern repro.

So what do you think I have here? I'm thinking it's a messed-with WW1 pistol, but not sure.

Thanks! ---------- MM
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Luger 7.jpeg
Views:	62
Size:	34.0 KB
ID:	86291  

Click image for larger version

Name:	Luger 6.jpeg
Views:	50
Size:	69.9 KB
ID:	86292  

Click image for larger version

Name:	Luger 5.jpeg
Views:	50
Size:	51.6 KB
ID:	86293  

Click image for larger version

Name:	Luger 4.jpg
Views:	75
Size:	23.7 KB
ID:	86294  

Click image for larger version

Name:	Luger 3.jpg
Views:	54
Size:	32.2 KB
ID:	86295  

Click image for larger version

Name:	Luger 2.jpg
Views:	47
Size:	32.3 KB
ID:	86296  

Click image for larger version

Name:	Luger 1.jpg
Views:	45
Size:	47.6 KB
ID:	86297  

magazineman is offline   Reply With Quote
The following 3 members says Thank You to magazineman for your post:
Unread 01-04-2023, 04:01 PM   #2
Mac Cat
Lifer
Lifetime Forum
Patron
 
Mac Cat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 665
Thanks: 1,994
Thanked 538 Times in 291 Posts
Default

Welcome to the Luger Forum !

It looks like an Erfurt P.08 luger (1910-1918).
There are many that have no date stamp on the chamber.
It's been beat up, probably by people who didn't know how to take it apart.
It's worth cleaning up and oiling.

The full serial number should be under the barrel and in front of the frame over the trigger guard (that one seems to be missing or removed)

Look for more stamps on the barrel and small parts.
Erfurt put them everywhere.
Mac Cat is offline   Reply With Quote
The following 2 members says Thank You to Mac Cat for your post:
Unread 01-04-2023, 06:50 PM   #3
jeb111
Patron
LugerForum
Patron
 
Join Date: May 2018
Location: wyoming
Posts: 275
Thanks: 676
Thanked 321 Times in 131 Posts
Default

It does look rough but take it apart and give it a good cleaning and if the bore is decent it should make a nice shooter.
Jim
jeb111 is offline   Reply With Quote
The following 3 members says Thank You to jeb111 for your post:
Unread 01-04-2023, 11:43 PM   #4
spangy
Lifer
Lifetime Forum
Patron
 
spangy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2020
Location: Winnipeg, Canada
Posts: 606
Thanks: 2,964
Thanked 1,047 Times in 422 Posts
Default

I wonder if the file marks on the trigger plate are 'kills' ??

The beauty of an old shooter like this is your opportunity to try new things regarding finish,bluing etc.
Here's your chance to try all those things out that you would never risk on a collector piece or even a good shooter. Every move you make that 'works' for you is like a bull's eye at the range ... so much fun.

I am a sucker for the old Erfurt's too ... the stamps are like reading a history book.

Have fun magazineman and to the Forum.
__________________
Whoever said that "money can't buy you happiness" never bought a Luger.
WTB - Take Down Lever & Trigger Plate (#90) for an Imperial Artillery.
spangy is offline   Reply With Quote
The following 2 members says Thank You to spangy for your post:
Unread 01-05-2023, 11:00 AM   #5
Karl
Lifer - Twice Over
Lifetime Forum
Patron
 
Karl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Savannah
Posts: 512
Thanks: 0
Thanked 237 Times in 109 Posts
Default

I can't make out a serial number on the front of the frame.
Karl is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 01-05-2023, 12:56 PM   #6
frankenlugerguy
User
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: The Mountains of Western North Carolina
Posts: 38
Thanks: 563
Thanked 33 Times in 21 Posts
Default

Karl: "I can't make out a serial number on the front of the frame."
Looks like "8701", ahead of the take-down plate.
__________________
Cursum Perficio
frankenlugerguy is offline   Reply With Quote
The following member says Thank You to frankenlugerguy for your post:
Unread 01-05-2023, 01:39 PM   #7
magazineman
New User
 
Join Date: Jan 2023
Posts: 4
Thanks: 0
Thanked 11 Times in 3 Posts
Default

Does 8701 indicate a Build Year?
magazineman is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 01-05-2023, 03:10 PM   #8
Karl
Lifer - Twice Over
Lifetime Forum
Patron
 
Karl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Savannah
Posts: 512
Thanks: 0
Thanked 237 Times in 109 Posts
Default

Perry,

The 8701 does not indicate the build year. The year should be stamped on top of the receiver but may have been removed. Assuming that the frame matches the rest of the gun (it is an Erfurt frame but I can't make out the serial number), the presence of the stock lug dates it to no earlier than late 1913. The unrelieved sear bar dates it to no later than early 1916. The acceptance marks on the side of the receiver are obscured but the first (left) mark seems to be a crown/D which is only documented by Still on 1913 dated Erfurt lugers made between 1913 and 1916.

KFS
Karl is offline   Reply With Quote
The following 4 members says Thank You to Karl for your post:
Unread 01-05-2023, 03:33 PM   #9
frankenlugerguy
User
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: The Mountains of Western North Carolina
Posts: 38
Thanks: 563
Thanked 33 Times in 21 Posts
Default

But I'm like you Karl; even with high magnification, just can't make out the serial number on the front of the frame.
__________________
Cursum Perficio
frankenlugerguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 01-06-2023, 01:49 PM   #10
magazineman
New User
 
Join Date: Jan 2023
Posts: 4
Thanks: 0
Thanked 11 Times in 3 Posts
Default

It would seem by what I've learned here that this is a WW1 Era military pistol. This suggests that it may have been used in the war.

Excellent! That's good enough for me. Thanks, Guys.
magazineman is offline   Reply With Quote
The following 3 members says Thank You to magazineman for your post:
Unread 01-06-2023, 02:26 PM   #11
tomaustin
Lifer X5
Lifetime Forum
Patron
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: texas
Posts: 708
Thanks: 87
Thanked 522 Times in 201 Posts
Default

IT CERTAINLY HAS A HISTORY....

what that might be is the entertaining aspect...
tomaustin is offline   Reply With Quote
The following member says Thank You to tomaustin for your post:
Unread 01-06-2023, 03:06 PM   #12
magazineman
New User
 
Join Date: Jan 2023
Posts: 4
Thanks: 0
Thanked 11 Times in 3 Posts
Talking

Lifer X5 --------- I think that it's history is pretty obvious:

General Ludendorff was shooting this gun from the backseat of his Daimler staff car, randomly bouncing slugs all around Liege. While women, kids, & street dogs scurried for cover behind shoe-shine stands & Belgian waffle shops.

This seems to be it's most likely background.
magazineman is offline   Reply With Quote
The following 5 members says Thank You to magazineman for your post:
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:59 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1998 - 2023, Lugerforum.com