Amazin' what ya' didn't know

Navy · 11-14-2003, 08:34 AM

While attempting to assist our own redoubtable Mr John Sabato in getting dimensions for Navy Luger barrels, I had occasion to correspond with a very advanced collector in Europe. This particular gentleman owns the ORIGINAL DWM prototype blueprints for the P-04 and P-08 pistols.

Guess what folks: The Navy was ORIGINALLY designed with a 4" barrel. That is exactly what the blueprints depict. The circumstances surroundinmg the substitution of the 6" barrel are unknown.

The blue prints are unquestionably the real McCoy.

So after playing with these things for nearly 50 years, I am still finding out stuff I didn't know.

Jeez, ya' just gotta love Lugers!

Tom A.

John Sabato · 11-14-2003, 10:03 AM

Just an addendum to Tom's revelation... I have decided to do a little "spare time" project (likely to take a few months because of how little spare time I have) of creating 2D blueprints in AutoCAD for the Long Frame Navy Luger 6" barrel...

In addition to the technical information that has been so generously provided in confidence by Tom's European collector friend... Hugh Clark is sending me both an original Navy Barrel for checking dimensions and a standard 4 inch barrel for comparison. The standard 4 inch barrel blueprint in AutoCAD will be a derivative work of the Navy Blueprint. These CAD images will be ported to .jpg images and included with the images that were already on the old Frank Rial Blueprint CD, and also a couple of other blueprints that I have managed to obtain that were not on the CD such as the the overall blueprint for the Trommelmagazine...

Unless you have a pressing need for blueprints I would recommend that all who would like to have a copy of this CD wait until this project is completed so that you get as complete a set of blueprints as possible...

11-14-2003, 08:34 AM	#1
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	Amazin' what ya' didn't know While attempting to assist our own redoubtable Mr John Sabato in getting dimensions for Navy Luger barrels, I had occasion to correspond with a very advanced collector in Europe. This particular gentleman owns the ORIGINAL DWM prototype blueprints for the P-04 and P-08 pistols. Guess what folks: The Navy was ORIGINALLY designed with a 4" barrel. That is exactly what the blueprints depict. The circumstances surroundinmg the substitution of the 6" barrel are unknown. The blue prints are unquestionably the real McCoy. So after playing with these things for nearly 50 years, I am still finding out stuff I didn't know. Jeez, ya' just gotta love Lugers! Tom A.

11-14-2003, 10:03 AM	#2
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Just an addendum to Tom's revelation... I have decided to do a little "spare time" project (likely to take a few months because of how little spare time I have) of creating 2D blueprints in AutoCAD for the Long Frame Navy Luger 6" barrel... In addition to the technical information that has been so generously provided in confidence by Tom's European collector friend... Hugh Clark is sending me both an original Navy Barrel for checking dimensions and a standard 4 inch barrel for comparison. The standard 4 inch barrel blueprint in AutoCAD will be a derivative work of the Navy Blueprint. These CAD images will be ported to .jpg images and included with the images that were already on the old Frank Rial Blueprint CD, and also a couple of other blueprints that I have managed to obtain that were not on the CD such as the the overall blueprint for the Trommelmagazine... Unless you have a pressing need for blueprints I would recommend that all who would like to have a copy of this CD wait until this project is completed so that you get as complete a set of blueprints as possible... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*