Dan Metz' Swiss M1900 Serial #14

Pete Ebbink · 06-07-2005, 04:49 PM

Posting some photos for Luger Forum member Dan Metz' M1900 Swiss luger, serial # 14.

Dan will be sending more photos of the top of the chamber and the left side proofs.

Dan has indicated this one is original finish and is +/V stamped (which would be quite rare). As soon as I receive other photos, I will get them posted up.

Enjoy this beautiful Swiss luger :

Ron Wood · 06-07-2005, 05:48 PM

Great photos! Any chance Dan could include a shot of the markings on the under side of the barrel?

Pete Ebbink · 06-07-2005, 06:03 PM

Hi Ron,

I have asked Dan to send 4 more photos : barrel markings, chamber marking, polished thumb safety area, and the left side receiver markings.

Dan is willing...may take a few days...

Regards,

Pete...

drbuster · 06-08-2005, 09:05 AM

I would love to see pictures of the magazine!

John Sabato · 06-08-2005, 09:19 AM

What incredibly good condition this pistol is in, for it's age! Makes you wonder where it has been hiding for so long. I hope I look that good when I am 105, but I am afraid I have already started my way down hil

Dwight Gruber · 06-08-2005, 09:34 AM

Pete,

A tight closeup of the witness mark, of course...

--Dwight

drbuster · 06-09-2005, 07:25 PM

I discussed this interesting Luger with Mike Krause today. These very low serial number pieces were apparently "test" guns. Why "BUG" proofs are on it increases the mystery. I'm not certain that these proofs were on the earliest guns (It's also controversial whether the serial numbers restarted at "1" at some point). Mike has seen and examined #19. It has the "GL" monogram on the rear toggle and of course has an unrelieved frame. After my talk with Mike, I would like to see more photos and hear more details.

panda · 06-10-2005, 01:25 PM

wonderful, beautiful. Thanks for sharing these pics!

Pete Ebbink · 09-09-2005, 02:14 PM

Dan was home and took a few more photos for us to see. He has not had any luck with his camera's macro feature to get a good photo of the barrel/receiver witness mark...

Pete Ebbink · 09-13-2005, 12:06 PM

Thanks, Dan !

Pete Ebbink · 03-06-2006, 06:48 PM

Nice article about Dan Metz on this pdf file...and even a photo of Dan and some of his collectible pistols on page 3 of 16 of the pdf-file :

http://www.gunssavelife.com/GSLife/g...2001secure.pdf

Looks like he is a Spandau luger owner as well...

drbuster · 03-06-2006, 10:50 PM

Pete, and all, I am still puzzled about this beautiful Swiss gun. It appears to be an early commercial piece. The magazine is not pictured but should, I believe, NOT have a Swiss disc on the sides of the wood bottom and should have the old style flat loading button. But I think I see in the top photo that the frame may have a groove in it for the later type relieved magazine. Of course, if true, these modifications were often made later and wouldn't mean much. It would be nice, nevertheless, to see photos of the magazine.

Edward Tinker · 03-06-2006, 11:02 PM

Whats a Borshart?

Pete Ebbink · 03-06-2006, 11:23 PM

Russian soup with floating bits of mystery meat ???

Edward Tinker · 03-06-2006, 11:56 PM

hey, funny stuff!

ed

Pete Ebbink · 03-10-2006, 04:51 PM

Hey Eddie,

You did not need to delete your first posting about my "loosing my sense of humor"...

I always joke with my wife when she accuses me of the same...I tell her I cannot loose something I never had in the first place...

Glad your long 2nd. trip to Montana was a safe one !

06-07-2005, 05:48 PM	#2
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,986 Thanks: 1,065 Thanked 5,088 Times in 1,674 Posts	Great photos! Any chance Dan could include a shot of the markings on the under side of the barrel? __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

06-08-2005, 09:19 AM	#5
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	What incredibly good condition this pistol is in, for it's age! Makes you wonder where it has been hiding for so long. I hope I look that good when I am 105, but I am afraid I have already started my way down hil __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

06-07-2005, 04:49 PM	#1
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Dan Metz' Swiss M1900 Serial #14 Posting some photos for Luger Forum member Dan Metz' M1900 Swiss luger, serial # 14. Dan will be sending more photos of the top of the chamber and the left side proofs. Dan has indicated this one is original finish and is +/V stamped (which would be quite rare). As soon as I receive other photos, I will get them posted up. Enjoy this beautiful Swiss luger :

06-07-2005, 06:03 PM	#3
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hi Ron, I have asked Dan to send 4 more photos : barrel markings, chamber marking, polished thumb safety area, and the left side receiver markings. Dan is willing...may take a few days... Regards, Pete...

06-08-2005, 09:05 AM	#4
drbuster User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Mateo, California Posts: 1,432 Thanks: 2 Thanked 71 Times in 56 Posts	I would love to see pictures of the magazine!

06-08-2005, 09:34 AM	#6
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,889 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,281 Times in 423 Posts	Pete, A tight closeup of the witness mark, of course... --Dwight

06-09-2005, 07:25 PM	#7
drbuster User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Mateo, California Posts: 1,432 Thanks: 2 Thanked 71 Times in 56 Posts	I discussed this interesting Luger with Mike Krause today. These very low serial number pieces were apparently "test" guns. Why "BUG" proofs are on it increases the mystery. I'm not certain that these proofs were on the earliest guns (It's also controversial whether the serial numbers restarted at "1" at some point). Mike has seen and examined #19. It has the "GL" monogram on the rear toggle and of course has an unrelieved frame. After my talk with Mike, I would like to see more photos and hear more details.

06-10-2005, 01:25 PM	#8
panda User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 148 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	wonderful, beautiful. Thanks for sharing these pics!

09-09-2005, 02:14 PM	#9
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Dan was home and took a few more photos for us to see. He has not had any luck with his camera's macro feature to get a good photo of the barrel/receiver witness mark...

09-13-2005, 12:06 PM	#10
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Thanks, Dan !

03-06-2006, 06:48 PM	#11
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Nice article about Dan Metz on this pdf file...and even a photo of Dan and some of his collectible pistols on page 3 of 16 of the pdf-file : http://www.gunssavelife.com/GSLife/g...2001secure.pdf Looks like he is a Spandau luger owner as well...

03-06-2006, 10:50 PM	#12
drbuster User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Mateo, California Posts: 1,432 Thanks: 2 Thanked 71 Times in 56 Posts	Pete, and all, I am still puzzled about this beautiful Swiss gun. It appears to be an early commercial piece. The magazine is not pictured but should, I believe, NOT have a Swiss disc on the sides of the wood bottom and should have the old style flat loading button. But I think I see in the top photo that the frame may have a groove in it for the later type relieved magazine. Of course, if true, these modifications were often made later and wouldn't mean much. It would be nice, nevertheless, to see photos of the magazine.

03-06-2006, 11:02 PM	#13
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,909 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,500 Times in 2,076 Posts	Whats a Borshart?

03-06-2006, 11:23 PM	#14
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Russian soup with floating bits of mystery meat ???

03-06-2006, 11:56 PM	#15
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,909 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,500 Times in 2,076 Posts	hey, funny stuff! ed

03-10-2006, 04:51 PM	#16
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hey Eddie, You did not need to delete your first posting about my "loosing my sense of humor"... I always joke with my wife when she accuses me of the same...I tell her I cannot loose something I never had in the first place... Glad your long 2nd. trip to Montana was a safe one !