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Unread 11-27-2001, 01:37 PM   #1
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Default Lugers in Movies

Don't know if these have been mentioned:

(1)"Patient in Room 18"; in this 1938 Warner Bros. do of a Mignon Eberhart mystery, the evil proprietor of a private hospital, faced with disclosure, reaches into his desk drawer [FULL SCREEN OF LUGER], fires it at the hero but, nevertheless, ultimately gets his just reward. Dead, dead, dead, bad proprietor. (credit my wife who loves old detective flicks).


(2) "Hannibal Brooks"; in this 1969 comedy/drama Oliver Reed escapes from a Nazi stalag leading an elephant over the Alps to Switzerland. The evil proprietor of a private...oops, I meant the evil SS colonel...pulls his Luger from under his suit jacket and wings poor Oliver Reed in the shoulder but gets HIS just reward when Oliver's elephant pulls down the Nazi observation tower down over him. Dead, dead, dead, bad Nazi. (credit me; I love old elephant flicks--old flicks about elephants, that is).



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Unread 11-27-2001, 02:00 PM   #2
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Default :D Great reviews!!! (EOM)

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Unread 11-27-2001, 08:20 PM   #3
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Default Re: :D Great reviews!!!

I wonder how many full feature films depict the hero with a Luger? For some reason the Luger has always been associated with the darker side of mystery, murder and mayhem. Can you imagine Mayberry RFD with issue Lugers? Lugers were around during the days of Bat Masterson and I imagine many 'cowboys' probably had Lugers (well, at least one) but I have never seen a western with a Luger. On the range in the early 1900's would have been a good market for Lugers but we don't seem to see any portrayed in movies. I think the most 'out of place' Luger I can remember is in the original version "Of Mice and Men". In the book the gun was referred to as 'the Luger' with, what appeared to me, a certain reverance or respect. Had it been a Colt or Smith it probably would not have gotten brand name recognition.



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Unread 11-27-2001, 09:39 PM   #4
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Default Re: :D Great reviews!!!

You are right, you don't see automatics in Westerns. Although in John Wayne's 1900 western, Big Jake, his real son and son in the movie had a Manlicher (sp) or something like that, was kin d of cool, because there had to be western guys that bought a Luger and thought it was fast shooting and such!


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Unread 11-27-2001, 10:56 PM   #5
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Default Re: :D Great reviews!!!

What was the name of the western where ClintEastwood shot up the bad guys with a stocked broomhandle?


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Unread 11-27-2001, 10:59 PM   #6
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Default McClintock... EOM (EOM)

 
Unread 11-27-2001, 11:24 PM   #8
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Default Re: McClintock... EOM

Clint Eastwood was not in McClintock, from the INTERNET MOVIE DATA BASE "Kidd detonates the situation by escaping & spraying fire all over the place..then rides away with Stella Garcia to convince Chama to surrender to justice..he discovers, meanwhile, that Harlan has perverted even the law ordering the Sheriff's men to ambush him with Chama..."


This is on JOE KIDD. Here is the ACTOR LIST for McClintock:

Maureen O'Hara .... Katherine McLintock

Stefanie Powers .... Becky McLintock

Jerry Van Dyke .... Matt Douglas Jr

John Wayne .... George Washington McLintock

Patrick Wayne .... Devlin Warren

Chill Wills .... Drago

Hank Worden .... Curly Butler

Bruce Cabot (I) .... Ben Sage

Jack Kruschen .... Jake Birnbaum

Edgar Buchanan .... Bunny Dull

Perry Lopez .... Davey Elk

Michael Pate .... Puma

Strother Martin .... Agard

Gordon Jones (I) .... Matt Douglas

Robert Lowery .... Governor Cuthbert H. Humphrey

H.W. Gim .... Ching

Edward Faulkner .... Young Ben Sage

Aissa Wayne .... Alice Warren

Chuck Roberson .... Sheriff Jeff Lord

Mari Blanchard .... Camille

John Stanley .... Running Buffalo

Hal Needham .... Carter

Pedro Gonzales-Gonzales .... Carlos

NO CLINT EASTWOOD! CAPICE!! But a damn fine movie "The Hell I wont" ~Thor~





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Unread 11-27-2001, 11:30 PM   #9
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Default Darn.. I got my tapes mixed up again.... (EOM)

 
Unread 11-28-2001, 02:50 AM   #10
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Default OK, it's time..

..for a great western movie (ala Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid) which portrays a Harrison Ford type cowboy with a really nice prototype early 1900s Luger. For all of you film buffs and movie producers out there..what do you think? (I know that WWII movies are big right now, but 'big sky' Westerns are really great.

"Take me to your Luger!"



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Unread 11-28-2001, 10:05 AM   #11
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Default Re: :D Great reviews!!!

This may be a little off base. In either "A Fist Full of Dollars" or "For a Few Dollars More", Lee Van Cleef had a pistol that he would place a shoulder stock on it for long range shooting. Does anyone remember what pistol that was? I got a little curious because of the shoulder stock. Was this something that was common at that time or just a little Hollywood liberty? Thanks.



 
Unread 11-28-2001, 11:20 AM   #12
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Default He Sid, Shoulder stocks were available for Colt revolvers

I don't have a photo of one handy, but if I find one I will post it...


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Unread 11-28-2001, 08:12 PM   #14
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Default Re: :D Great reviews!!!

The Colt 1860 Army is cut for a shoulder stock. This is a 44 cal percussion revolver with a number of later cartridge conversion. Uberti currently make a good repro and you used to be able to get repro shoulder stocks from Dixie gun works. I traded a repro 1860 colt for my first Luger in 1968. (see, I got this back on topic )



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Unread 11-28-2001, 11:10 PM   #15
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Heinz, tell us about the Luger you got in l968.


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Default Re: :D Great reviews!!!

I believe his son was using a Broomhandled Mauser. It's been a long time since I saw the movie. I could be wrong, not the first time.



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Unread 11-29-2001, 11:46 AM   #17
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Default Re: :D Great reviews!!!

I have watched it many times, it is not a Broomie. It more resembles a P.38 but it is a different gun than that one. I think the Mitchum actor (Robert Mitchums son) explains to Patrick Wayne what type of gun it is. I think he said "a Bergman" but I could be wrong! I love the shoot out when Pat Wayne guns down the two local thugs with it with 4 very fast shots. ~Thor~



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Unread 11-29-2001, 07:52 PM   #18
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It was a 3 7/8 inch barrel 30 cal. A 100% mismatch on numbers, I mean nothing matched. Had a very good bore, pretty good grips, 90% blue, no straw left and shot very well. I was on a college pistol team them and stayed in practice. The pistol would occasionally jam when you really cranked the trigger. The jam mode was for ejected shell to come back down into the action, at least that is what the jam looked like. Marked Gesichert and no Germany. It had no provenance, as they say in the antique trade. I traded it for a Nazi marked Browning High power and a Russin PPS1, but that is another story.


I was quite fond of the 30 cal. They have awesome penetration and are easy to reload since the headspace on the neck.



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