Luger 45 ACP Project

[DonVoigt]

Originally Posted by lugerholsterrepair

3 words of advice, white lithium grease.

Wrong stuff for a luger; OIL is the key. JMHO.

[lugerholsterrepair]

Don, I oil my shooters but I judiciously use Lithium Grease on the interior/rails.

[Rick W.]

You know..........the LG I think is a nice idea. For years I used a fine red grease in a tube for locking lugs on rifles, and eventually found it was ok for slides on handguns.

I had cans of bearing grease and lubing grease(remember zerks?) and filled my old red fancy grease dispenser with one of the two for a long time. Always thought both types were a bit too thick for rails, now have this LG reference to try and use.

I suspect there will always be the oil only guys and the grease/oil guys on handguns. Both I think, require some maintenance from time to time; but just part of ownership.

[gunbugs]

I would bet the Huns just used oil on their P08's. But, as always, I'm probably wrong. There are some really good synthetic lubes these days. They probably far out perform the old oils. Except...maybe... THIS ONE. I've had this laying around the shop for decades...

[Ben M.]

Tetra makes a great lube. no smell. and no migrating to other parts.

works well on stainless revolvers also

https://shop.brownells.com/gun-clean...SABEgIftfD_BwE

http://www.tetraguncare.com/performance-lubricants/

[Sieger]

Hi All,

My vote goes to Ballistol.

The German Army CLP from 1904 through 1945!

Sieger

[lugerholsterrepair]

ANY oil is better than no oil.

[Vlim]

Since they were made by Eugene, a slow working oil is probably the best

[Sieger]

Originally Posted by Vlim

Since they were made by Eugene, a slow working oil is probably the best

Vlim,

Bump!!!


Sieger

[hayhugh]

Vim, that last remark should have been preceded by a drum-roll.....

[rhuff]

When one brings up the question of lubrication on a gun forum, it usually gets a large, and diverse response. The number of products that are made, and used, on weapons is impressive!! If there was one "best", then there would likely be only one made. I feel that regular cleaning, and lubing is far more important that the brand of lube used.

I have tried a lot of lubes over the decades, starting with 3in1 oil, which worked quite well. You pays your money, and you make your choice. The "gamers" that shoot 12-15K+ rounds per year, may well lean more to the grease products for frame/rail lubrication, than say the occasional shooter that cleans and lubes his/her weapon after each range visit. YMMV

[Vlim]

Early German manuals recommended using vaseline..

Think there are better lubricants these days. With better flavors...

[Sieger]

Originally Posted by Vlim

Early German manuals recommended using vaseline..

Think there are better lubricants these days. With better flavors...

Vlim,

Bump again!!!


Sieger

[Rick W.]

One would surmise that lubrication for the Luger, new or old, is most usually based upon experiences or pure timeline of availability. Does not have to be "my" way or the highway routine. I believe is always good to listen to other folks' experiences in whatever, always can take it or leave it; but at least you were lucky enough to see such once and maybe even think for yourself.

As a little side note to the early Luger lubes mentioned, the guys there did not have patches, always thought that was kinda marvelous.

Anytime one purchases something unique, there is always different forms of risk. I remember a fine Burmese star ruby buy, that I wish I had never seen; lost my Penny's T-shirt on that one. Guess we all have developed a sense of instant gratification that must be met no matter what, I am sadly no different. I try to remember the pot and the kettle routine.

I was thinking of who builds 45 Lugers, now and back when. Of course, the originals. Kinda hard to procure now for some reason or other. Here in America, I think of Wyatt and Martz; both kinda similar to the original, but in other senses, not really. Wyatt had no magazine, Martz did an artful use of two Lugers sawn carefully and welded, had a mago. There was a gentleman on the west coast that made a original looking 45acp Luger, but no more, and not too many. Not too many applies to all the above I think.

In Europe, Nedbal in Austria made a nice 45 ACP faithful to the original. I hear that he has retired(rumor on my part) and is partnering with Werle. Werle has made some 45 acp pistols and carbines in varying styles. I have always admired Werle's innovation.

I reckon if we did not have the maker of the US model, we might still be shooting our 50cal ball bearing slingshots with 45 Luger engraved on the side. I suspect that a lot of disgruntlement is from the flippers,..... got to have a timeline to make the markup because they never use their own money, always on loan. I suspect too that some are bought by true Luger lovers or even shooters.........just for the experience of firing such a magnificent handgun. I know it hard to have your 6-10K out in the blue with nothing in the hand, but as you well know, tis a risk with small time shops..........however good or honest they may be. I have been on lists for firearms, where you had to know the family, be a friend of a friend; or just walking with the right guy at the right time; in order to place an order for a specific firearm. I wish I was on the list for the American model, but time is too short now.

Life is full of adventures, take a little time to enjoy them; sometimes the adventure turns out and you have an event happen that will make you smile.

[2bnag]

I have been using white lithium grease for a lot of years. Started out using it on my Garand when I read that it was developed as a water proof grease for the Garand. Hard to beat it...Bill

[HerrKaiser]

I find that Rem-oil and good old Hobbes number 9 gun oil work just fine. But I only put 2-3k rounds through any one of my weapons in a year’s time

[2bnag]

anybody heard from Eugene?

[Lyn Islaub]

Thx for all the input on lubrication options, although I tend to side with Don regarding oil being sufficient. Here in Arizona, there's not much worry about corrosion so I store all my Lugers with just a light oil on the rails and the trigger pivot. Never had an issue shooting any of them. and I've fired a hundred or more.
Regarding Eugene's Lugers; I went over to GT's place this morning and reviewed his findings and they appear spot on (no great surprise there). The magazines need tweaking in the feed lip area so that they will feed more consistently (or at all) and the hold open spring is too weak. GT has modified his Luger accordingly and is kind enough to take mine on too.
I haven't heard from Eugene and have not tried to contact him. GT has spoken to him, but Eugene does not appear to take much outside advice, or at least that appears to be the case.
I suspect that at this point in the production cycle Eugene is happy to test with a set of "standard" magazines that he knows will work for testing and probably not the magazines that end up shipping with the gun. He said quite clearly that he tested my pistol with 200 rounds and unless it was at one round at a time, he couldn't have done it with the magazines I received. I'm not overly concerned, because I have complete faith that GT will overcome the problem and mine will become a tack driver too. The upside for anyone experiencing similar issues with their Golubtsov 45s is that GT can fix what ails them.
In closing, thx Vlim for making my day.
Lyn

[lugerholsterrepair]

Two photos of the .45 Luger Holster.

[ithacaartist]

The stitching is disappointing. Why does it look so much better on the back?