Interesting posts by Eric - Page 5

cirelaw · 12-12-2014, 02:01 PM

The introduction and success of our beloved M1 Carbine~ http://www.smallarmsreview.com/displ...darticles=2802

cirelaw · 12-12-2014, 02:07 PM

Walther P38 a Bench Mark In Firearm Innovation~ http://www.smallarmsreview.com/displ...darticles=1164

cirelaw · 12-12-2014, 03:16 PM

A vidio comparison of each~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYm_0eylwfI

cirelaw · 12-12-2014, 04:44 PM

A timeline marking the introduction of all weapons including our luger~~ http://britanici.com/Timeline.html

cirelaw · 12-12-2014, 05:39 PM

Military handguns of WW2. You can highlight each for its history and use. http://americanhandgunner.com/milita...f-wwii-series/ You can spend all day on this site! ~~~Eric

Sergio Natali · 12-13-2014, 03:56 AM

Eric

Two beautiful guns, did you know that some years ago I was on the verge of starting a small collection of Walter P.38 BUT at a certain point I realized that it will take at least another century before they will get any real collectible value so I gave up... :-)

Sergio

cirelaw · 12-13-2014, 12:31 PM

Right, I purchased several P38s from FGS. He was also selling them Swiss lugers, $1800 for a mint 1929 with holster. These were prestroke and I lost them somewhere while Jaco Beach, Costa Rica. George Anderson offered me this one and I wanted one to round out my collection ~~~ Eric

alvin · 12-13-2014, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luger.parabellum

Eric

Two beautiful guns, did you know that some years ago I was on the verge of starting a small collection of Walter P.38 BUT at a certain point I realized that it will take at least another century before they will get any real collectible value so I gave up... :-)

Sergio

Expanding into one type of gun is not easy. There are many variations. Acquiring a common P38 is easy, but P38 also has many variations. Rare one, e.g. HP, zero, 480 etc, are also hard to come.

cirelaw · 12-13-2014, 04:55 PM

Sergio and Alvin I agree!! Walther P38s have never commanded high value except the rare one's you pointed out. I must have purchased 5 or six from F.G.S. They all started to look alike except maybe the color of the grip! They were all sold or traded away and I was left with none! Years later I purchased this one. I bought it because of the proofs, holster and it looks very cool~ I realized today how much lighter is the luger! They do look nice together~ I'll stick to my P08! ~~~Eric

cirelaw · 12-14-2014, 02:34 PM

I had to post this Walther P38 site, the finest anywhere~~ A P38 Gold Mine ~ http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/unif...8/p38index.htm according to the site 'CYQ' code is seen in the late war and actually names the maker and city!

cirelaw · 12-14-2014, 10:45 PM

I could not pass up posting another fine site to identify a Walther P38~~ http://www.pistole38.nl/P38-variatio...ariations.html It contains download production charts~ I wish I found this site ten years ago before I switched to our favorite! Eric

Sergio Natali · 12-15-2014, 05:53 AM

I would also add that here in Italy it's quite common to find P.38 like the ones I enclose pictures of, so far I've never seen a farly scarce one.

alvin · 12-15-2014, 07:51 AM

Rare Walthers are in the US, because the factory was captured by GI. Just like many rare Mausers appeared in France.

Ordinary P38 in great shape, like the above ones, what is the ballpark price in Italy?

cirelaw · 12-15-2014, 08:45 AM

3 volume sets.

Sergio Natali · 12-15-2014, 11:44 AM

Alvin.

Here in Italy the average price for ordinary WALTHER P.38 in great shape range from the equivalent of USD 1300/1500 (MAUSER made are a bit cheaper) while for the newer P.38 ex Bundeswehr we can find prices from the equivalent of about USD 400/800.00

Somehow I never managed to really fall in love with them, while a pre WWII WALTHER PPK Zella Mehlis at the equivalent price of USD 1100.00 perhaps would be a bit more tempting.

Sergio

cirelaw · 12-15-2014, 12:54 PM

Walther Perfection~~Most complete and useful than any other site I have ever found on this subject~ http://p-38.info/ Eric

Sergio Natali · 12-15-2014, 02:33 PM

Eric

Thanks that is an interesting and as you said absolutely useful site on P.38!!!

Sergio

cirelaw · 12-15-2014, 03:09 PM

Most Expensive Wather P38 ever on Gunbroker over $700 Thousand Dollars~ http://p-38.info/pdf/110683387.pdf Somethig sounds fishy!

alvin · 12-15-2014, 04:54 PM

Yeah. I like Walther PPK too. Pocket pistol cannot be prettier than PPK. Never had one. It's a future item on my list.

cirelaw · 12-15-2014, 05:01 PM

They allow you to diversify although nothing replaces a luger anytime or anywhere. I believe! You are right those Walthers were often carried by officers as a pocket protection! They have their place right up there! Eric

12-12-2014, 02:07 PM	#82
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Walther P38 a Bench Mark In Firearm Innovation~ http://www.smallarmsreview.com/displ...darticles=1164 Attached Thumbnails

12-12-2014, 03:16 PM	#83
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Lugers and Walther's Side By Side~ A vidio comparison of each~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYm_0eylwfI Attached Thumbnails

12-13-2014, 03:56 AM	#86
Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,082 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	Eric Two beautiful guns, did you know that some years ago I was on the verge of starting a small collection of Walter P.38 BUT at a certain point I realized that it will take at least another century before they will get any real collectible value so I gave up... :-) Sergio __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list.

12-13-2014, 12:31 PM	#87
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Right, I purchased several P38s from FGS. He was also selling them Swiss lugers, $1800 for a mint 1929 with holster. These were prestroke and I lost them somewhere while Jaco Beach, Costa Rica. George Anderson offered me this one and I wanted one to round out my collection ~~~ Eric Attached Thumbnails

12-15-2014, 05:53 AM	#92
Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,082 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	I would also add that here in Italy it's quite common to find P.38 like the ones I enclose pictures of, so far I've never seen a farly scarce one. Attached Thumbnails __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list.

12-12-2014, 02:01 PM	#81
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	The introduction and success of our beloved M1 Carbine~ http://www.smallarmsreview.com/displ...darticles=2802

12-12-2014, 04:44 PM	#84
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	A timeline marking the introduction of all weapons including our luger~~ http://britanici.com/Timeline.html

12-12-2014, 05:39 PM	#85
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Military handguns of WW2. You can highlight each for its history and use. http://americanhandgunner.com/milita...f-wwii-series/ You can spend all day on this site! ~~~Eric

12-13-2014, 04:55 PM	#89
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Sergio and Alvin I agree!! Walther P38s have never commanded high value except the rare one's you pointed out. I must have purchased 5 or six from F.G.S. They all started to look alike except maybe the color of the grip! They were all sold or traded away and I was left with none! Years later I purchased this one. I bought it because of the proofs, holster and it looks very cool~ I realized today how much lighter is the luger! They do look nice together~ I'll stick to my P08! ~~~Eric

12-14-2014, 02:34 PM	#90
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	I had to post this Walther P38 site, the finest anywhere~~ A P38 Gold Mine ~ http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/unif...8/p38index.htm according to the site 'CYQ' code is seen in the late war and actually names the maker and city!

12-14-2014, 10:45 PM	#91
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	I could not pass up posting another fine site to identify a Walther P38~~ http://www.pistole38.nl/P38-variatio...ariations.html It contains download production charts~ I wish I found this site ten years ago before I switched to our favorite! Eric

12-15-2014, 07:51 AM	#93
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	Rare Walthers are in the US, because the factory was captured by GI. Just like many rare Mausers appeared in France. Ordinary P38 in great shape, like the above ones, what is the ballpark price in Italy?

12-15-2014, 08:45 AM	#94
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Buxton's Three Volume Set Are The Bibles of Walthers P38s 3 volume sets. Attached Thumbnails

12-15-2014, 11:44 AM	#95
Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,082 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	Alvin. Here in Italy the average price for ordinary WALTHER P.38 in great shape range from the equivalent of USD 1300/1500 (MAUSER made are a bit cheaper) while for the newer P.38 ex Bundeswehr we can find prices from the equivalent of about USD 400/800.00 Somehow I never managed to really fall in love with them, while a pre WWII WALTHER PPK Zella Mehlis at the equivalent price of USD 1100.00 perhaps would be a bit more tempting. Sergio Attached Thumbnails __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list.

12-15-2014, 12:54 PM	#96
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Walther Perfection~~Most complete and useful than any other site I have ever found on this subject~ http://p-38.info/ Eric

12-15-2014, 02:33 PM	#97
Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,082 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	Eric Thanks that is an interesting and as you said absolutely useful site on P.38!!! Sergio __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list.

12-15-2014, 03:09 PM	#98
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Most Expensive Wather P38 ever on Gunbroker over $700 Thousand Dollars~ http://p-38.info/pdf/110683387.pdf Somethig sounds fishy!

12-15-2014, 04:54 PM	#99
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	Yeah. I like Walther PPK too. Pocket pistol cannot be prettier than PPK. Never had one. It's a future item on my list.

12-15-2014, 05:01 PM	#100
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	They allow you to diversify although nothing replaces a luger anytime or anywhere. I believe! You are right those Walthers were often carried by officers as a pocket protection! They have their place right up there! Eric