Good to be back online

shadow · 10-29-2006, 02:26 AM

Glad the shutdown is over, I was suffering from withdraw!!!

Steinar · 10-29-2006, 05:53 AM

phef.. almost sold my Lugers and stopped collecting there for a moment..

John Sabato · 10-29-2006, 07:12 AM

John D.

Thanks for your prompt attention to the Forum server on your return! You were definitely missed... Hope your trip was even more successful than you had planned...

-John S

c3006 · 10-29-2006, 08:09 AM

I lurk over at jans place but feel at home here, Thanks John for looking over this place. clint

lew1 · 10-29-2006, 08:14 AM

It is not often that people are willing to do things in person. So I hope John D's trip has and will bear fruit.

Lugerdoc · 10-29-2006, 08:28 AM

Ditto the above. It's nice to be back on a user-friendly site again. TH

Hugh · 10-29-2006, 08:36 AM

Wheeee......those withdrawal pains are baaaad!!

John D. · 10-29-2006, 11:27 AM

Hi Folks,

My thanks.. It's nice to be home... Jen & I arrived back last night about 1:30 AM (Saturday night) from nearly two weeks outside the USA - without an Internet connection, access to e-mail (or TV, or telephone, or a flushing toilet, or potable water, or, most of the time Ã¢?? the simple convenience of electricity..).

This morning - I was struggling with a reply to you all as to where we've been, for what purpose and how we feel after our trip. But for all that thought before posting - I'm still speechless. I can't come up with the right words for you to read. After going through hundreds of photos - with hundreds more yet to be developed - I thought I might be able to show you a single picture which might begin to capture the essence of my thoughts and range of emotions which span humility, being daunted, humbled and deeply saddened. There is no such single photo to share - simply a mosaic of images of abject poverty, proud people and children who have no parents, no shelter - and little hope in a country which is plagued by unemployment rates reaching 90%.

I know this experience has affected me in many ways. All were unexpected. All are powerful changes instituted by the mere fact that before - I didn't know how to care for people in a distant land who quietly lead lives of simple desperation. I'm not sure today - I can comprehend the efforts required to make a difference in a miniscule part of the world to a handful of orphans?

In short, imagine the worst inner city conditions in the USA - now double the strife, destitution homelessness, and then extrapolate those same conditions across the entire country. Can you imagine? I, now can, as it exists. I witnessed it first-hand.

What I will say - is that I didn't choose this path, rather - I know now, it chose me. Nor did I choose the orphans, orphanage and homeless, as they again - chose me.

But, since the Good Lord chose me for the spokesman for this cause, and I have no idea *why* - I know I'll find the right words, the right pictures and the right path. In the meantime, just know your thoughts, wishes and prayers are the basis to be able to begin this journey.

And your patience and support while this Forum was off-line, is more appreciated than you may realize.

My thanks for that Ã¢?? and yes, again - it is nice to be homeÃ¢?Â¦

John D.

wlyon · 10-29-2006, 06:01 PM

You and your wife are good people John D. Thanks for everything you do. Bill

John D. · 10-29-2006, 06:28 PM

Hi Bill, Hugh, Tom, John S., Morgan... Well - Everyone!!

My thanks...... But -

I can't seem to figure out what to post - or why...

But here is one - of many hundreds of the pictures I took. This one rocks me more than you may know. When I look at it - I kind'a know what I'm doing with all this...

Here is the story behind the picture....

I do not know this young mans name. I wish I did. I do not. He approached me on a beach to sell a shell. I did not buy it - but rather, started talking to him.

This young man is nine years old. He has no father. He has a mother and three younger sisters/brothers. He does not go to school, as schools are "expensive" (about $US 100 per year). Rather, he has been told that he must support his mother and family by bringing home money from begging on the beach. He lives in Port Salut, Haiti.

Anyway - a few minutes after this photo, several of his friends showed up, as this young gentleman and I were simply chatting on the beach. In one swift move - his friend pulled up the shirt of the child in the photo - and his chest/stomach was emblazoned with red raw flesh wounds, which appeared as if he were whipped by a cane.

I asked this young man "Who did that?".

His reply, in French -"My Mother. She beat me when I spent some money to eat for me, instead of if I give it to her..."

I asked when he gave his mother any money what happens to it? He said "she drinks the money".

I don't know his name. In this photo - I wish I did..

John D.

Edward Tinker · 10-29-2006, 11:56 PM

wow John, it is amazing how we as free people live so wonderful compared to these poor kids and folks. I see that we don't have the only misguided parents who drink and abuse kids. I am sure this was hard for you to face, but I am glad you have the chance to experience and help as you are trying...

Ed

Steinar · 10-30-2006, 02:49 AM

It is hard to find the right words replying to your story, I truly respect your important work in Haiti. A place where childbirth often means death.

"In 2004, for every 100,000 births, 523 women died in Haiti (compared to eight maternal deaths for every 100,000 births in Europe). But in the last two years, the statistics in Haiti have probably worsened due to the increasing violence."
This is taken from Medecins Sans Frontieres webside (Doctors without Borders in english). An international organization of doctors from several nations, working in the worlds worst places. Supporting their work comes naturly to me. Best to you John D!

waltherguy · 10-31-2006, 08:50 PM

John.. Very glad to have the forum back. but most importantly.. what amazing work you were doing! Really makes me think.. and be thankfull for how blessed we really are!

pipeman45 · 10-31-2006, 10:23 PM

John thanks for getting the boards back up and running. The time it was down is worth it now that we know how your time was spent.
God bless you and your wife.

lugerluser · 10-31-2006, 10:59 PM

Oh stupid me, i guess it was NOT just MY PC! Maybe i should not have thown it at the wall. You don't know what you have, till it's gone!

10-29-2006, 02:26 AM	#1
shadow User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down The Shore Posts: 245 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Good to be back online Glad the shutdown is over, I was suffering from withdraw!!! __________________ The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference - they deserve a place of honor with all that's good. George Washington

10-29-2006, 05:53 AM	#2
Steinar User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1,538 Thanks: 18 Thanked 36 Times in 21 Posts	phef.. almost sold my Lugers and stopped collecting there for a moment.. __________________ Previously known as Morgan Kane

10-29-2006, 07:12 AM	#3
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	John D. Thanks for your prompt attention to the Forum server on your return! You were definitely missed... Hope your trip was even more successful than you had planned... -John S __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

10-29-2006, 08:09 AM	#4
c3006 User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: east tn Posts: 526 Thanks: 5 Thanked 12 Times in 5 Posts	I lurk over at jans place but feel at home here, Thanks John for looking over this place. clint __________________ Men Accustomed unto thier arms and their liberties will never endure the yoke. James Harrington 1776

10-29-2006, 08:14 AM	#5
lew1 Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,108 Thanks: 82 Thanked 204 Times in 112 Posts	It is not often that people are willing to do things in person. So I hope John D's trip has and will bear fruit. __________________ charlie

10-29-2006, 08:28 AM	#6
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Ditto the above. It's nice to be back on a user-friendly site again. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

10-29-2006, 08:36 AM	#7
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 165 Times in 64 Posts	Wheeee......those withdrawal pains are baaaad!! __________________ *TRUMP FOR PREZ IN '20!*

10-29-2006, 11:27 AM	#8
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 471 Thanked 513 Times in 127 Posts	Hi Folks, My thanks.. It's nice to be home... Jen & I arrived back last night about 1:30 AM (Saturday night) from nearly two weeks outside the USA - without an Internet connection, access to e-mail (or TV, or telephone, or a flushing toilet, or potable water, or, most of the time Ã¢?? the simple convenience of electricity..). This morning - I was struggling with a reply to you all as to where we've been, for what purpose and how we feel after our trip. But for all that thought before posting - I'm still speechless. I can't come up with the right words for you to read. After going through hundreds of photos - with hundreds more yet to be developed - I thought I might be able to show you a single picture which might begin to capture the essence of my thoughts and range of emotions which span humility, being daunted, humbled and deeply saddened. There is no such single photo to share - simply a mosaic of images of abject poverty, proud people and children who have no parents, no shelter - and little hope in a country which is plagued by unemployment rates reaching 90%. I know this experience has affected me in many ways. All were unexpected. All are powerful changes instituted by the mere fact that before - I didn't know how to care for people in a distant land who quietly lead lives of simple desperation. I'm not sure today - I can comprehend the efforts required to make a difference in a miniscule part of the world to a handful of orphans? In short, imagine the worst inner city conditions in the USA - now double the strife, destitution homelessness, and then extrapolate those same conditions across the entire country. Can you imagine? I, now can, as it exists. I witnessed it first-hand. What I will say - is that I didn't choose this path, rather - I know now, it chose me. Nor did I choose the orphans, orphanage and homeless, as they again - chose me. But, since the Good Lord chose me for the spokesman for this cause, and I have no idea why - I know I'll find the right words, the right pictures and the right path. In the meantime, just know your thoughts, wishes and prayers are the basis to be able to begin this journey. And your patience and support while this Forum was off-line, is more appreciated than you may realize. My thanks for that Ã¢?? and yes, again - it is nice to be homeÃ¢?Â¦ John D.

10-29-2006, 06:01 PM	#9
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,614 Thanks: 3,140 Thanked 2,519 Times in 939 Posts	You and your wife are good people John D. Thanks for everything you do. Bill __________________ Bill Lyon

10-29-2006, 06:28 PM	#10
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 471 Thanked 513 Times in 127 Posts	Hi Bill, Hugh, Tom, John S., Morgan... Well - Everyone!! My thanks...... But - I can't seem to figure out what to post - or why... But here is one - of many hundreds of the pictures I took. This one rocks me more than you may know. When I look at it - I kind'a know what I'm doing with all this... Here is the story behind the picture.... I do not know this young mans name. I wish I did. I do not. He approached me on a beach to sell a shell. I did not buy it - but rather, started talking to him. This young man is nine years old. He has no father. He has a mother and three younger sisters/brothers. He does not go to school, as schools are "expensive" (about $US 100 per year). Rather, he has been told that he must support his mother and family by bringing home money from begging on the beach. He lives in Port Salut, Haiti. Anyway - a few minutes after this photo, several of his friends showed up, as this young gentleman and I were simply chatting on the beach. In one swift move - his friend pulled up the shirt of the child in the photo - and his chest/stomach was emblazoned with red raw flesh wounds, which appeared as if he were whipped by a cane. I asked this young man "Who did that?". His reply, in French -"My Mother. She beat me when I spent some money to eat for me, instead of if I give it to her..." I asked when he gave his mother any money what happens to it? He said "she drinks the money". I don't know his name. In this photo - I wish I did.. John D.

10-29-2006, 11:56 PM	#11
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,909 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,500 Times in 2,076 Posts	wow John, it is amazing how we as free people live so wonderful compared to these poor kids and folks. I see that we don't have the only misguided parents who drink and abuse kids. I am sure this was hard for you to face, but I am glad you have the chance to experience and help as you are trying... Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

10-30-2006, 02:49 AM	#12
Steinar User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1,538 Thanks: 18 Thanked 36 Times in 21 Posts	It is hard to find the right words replying to your story, I truly respect your important work in Haiti. A place where childbirth often means death. "In 2004, for every 100,000 births, 523 women died in Haiti (compared to eight maternal deaths for every 100,000 births in Europe). But in the last two years, the statistics in Haiti have probably worsened due to the increasing violence." This is taken from Medecins Sans Frontieres webside (Doctors without Borders in english). An international organization of doctors from several nations, working in the worlds worst places. Supporting their work comes naturly to me. Best to you John D! __________________ Previously known as Morgan Kane

10-31-2006, 08:50 PM	#13
waltherguy User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: FL Posts: 201 Thanks: 5 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	John.. Very glad to have the forum back. but most importantly.. what amazing work you were doing! Really makes me think.. and be thankfull for how blessed we really are! __________________ "In a man to man fight the winner is the one who puts an extra round in his magazine" -Field Marshal Erwin Rommel

10-31-2006, 10:23 PM	#14
pipeman45 User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Kentucky Posts: 539 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	John thanks for getting the boards back up and running. The time it was down is worth it now that we know how your time was spent. God bless you and your wife. __________________ Dave

10-31-2006, 10:59 PM	#15
lugerluser User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Winchester, Virginia Posts: 65 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Oh stupid me, i guess it was NOT just MY PC! Maybe i should not have thown it at the wall. You don't know what you have, till it's gone! __________________ "GOD IS!"