Krieghoff P 59

hqbmw · 01-29-2006, 06:33 PM

I would like tp share with you Krieghoff P 59 with its two matching cannons; one chambered in 9mm at 100mm in length; the second chambered in 7.65 in 150mm length. Additionally it has two matching magazines.

First, a little history as I know it. P 59 was acquired by a collector friend of mine who specializes in Broomhandles and has some of the finest in existence. He acquired P 59 in the very early 80's while buying, with a partner, a collection of Broomhandles and Lugers. At the end of the purchase, he was offered P59 because his partner had a virtually matching firearm except the chamberings were the exact opposite: the 9mm was 150mm and the 7.65mm was 100mm.

We had been doing shows together for a great time as our backgrounds are extraordinarily similiar, when he showed up with P 59 and offered it to me as the sole Luger in his collection. It had been in his safe since he put it there upon acquisition nearly 30 years ago. Of course, my response once I was able to speak again, was in the affirmative. It isn't everyday that a mint Luger is offered one; and to be a Krieghoff with matching cannons and mags put me into a headspin!

So I now will allow the gun to speak for itself, adding only needed description. Credit must go to Jerry Burney, who took these images and talked me into doing a presentation to The Forum.

hqbmw · 01-29-2006, 11:46 PM

P 59

Ron Wood · 01-30-2006, 01:55 AM

Heavens to Betsy...that is going to cause some palpitations in the community! Can't wait to see the excitement this treasure will generate.

hqbmw · 01-30-2006, 02:08 AM

Ron

If I could just concentrate, this would be a breeze; but trying to get rid of this flu has my keyboard sizzling! I'll try to get some images posted tonight.

Jack

hqbmw · 01-30-2006, 02:11 AM

P 59

hqbmw · 01-30-2006, 02:22 AM

P59

hqbmw · 01-30-2006, 02:33 AM

P 59

hqbmw · 01-30-2006, 02:42 AM

You all have my sincere apologies for the poor presentation of this fine firearm. I am having a hell of a time getting my images resized and re-contented to appropriately fit The Forum. I now need to call on support or reshoot the entire shoot in lower definition.

Anybody willing to help, please contact me at home on Monday at your convenience. Otherwise, I won't be able to share this with all.

Jack Hiles
Mesa, AZ
480 219 6676

hqbmw · 01-30-2006, 02:45 AM

Last chance tonight

Pete Ebbink · 01-30-2006, 10:26 AM

Hi Jack,

Send me your big files...I can resize for you and post them up...

pebbink@pacbell.net

hqbmw · 01-31-2006, 12:28 AM

P 59 bolt face showing virtually no wear and a minimal brass trail on the extractor.

hqbmw · 01-31-2006, 12:33 AM

P 59 9mm in 100mm length canon. This view shows the underside or the rail with a plug that appears to fill a hole for the rivet used to install the sear safety on a police gun. It is unnoticable from the top side and only seen after intense scrutiny on the bottom.

hqbmw · 01-31-2006, 12:40 AM

Police eagle on the bottom of matching magazine by Schmeisser. Found the eagle listed in Sam Costanzo's book page 79

hqbmw · 01-31-2006, 12:48 AM

Note the machining mark at the top of the lug. It appears as if it drilled a hole beyond spec before finishing the lug track

hqbmw · 01-31-2006, 12:51 AM

Serial number on the front of the frame at the trigger guard with NO leg on the P. Germany export stamp and correct numbering of take down lever.

hqbmw · 01-31-2006, 01:01 AM

Safety and left rear of frame showing the Krieghoff contour.

hqbmw · 01-31-2006, 01:05 AM

Witness marking on the 9mm 100mm long fork

hqbmw · 01-31-2006, 01:07 AM

Witness marking on the 7.65mm 150mm long fork

hqbmw · 01-31-2006, 01:10 AM

Threaded hole on inside of grip. Both grips had two threaded holes to facilitate removal of the grip from its mold. All 4 are as new on P 59

hqbmw · 01-31-2006, 01:12 AM

Note the champhered inside radius on the toggle knob inherent to Krieghoffs.

01-29-2006, 06:33 PM	#1
hqbmw User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Mesa AZ Posts: 228 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Krieghoff P 59 I would like tp share with you Krieghoff P 59 with its two matching cannons; one chambered in 9mm at 100mm in length; the second chambered in 7.65 in 150mm length. Additionally it has two matching magazines. First, a little history as I know it. P 59 was acquired by a collector friend of mine who specializes in Broomhandles and has some of the finest in existence. He acquired P 59 in the very early 80's while buying, with a partner, a collection of Broomhandles and Lugers. At the end of the purchase, he was offered P59 because his partner had a virtually matching firearm except the chamberings were the exact opposite: the 9mm was 150mm and the 7.65mm was 100mm. We had been doing shows together for a great time as our backgrounds are extraordinarily similiar, when he showed up with P 59 and offered it to me as the sole Luger in his collection. It had been in his safe since he put it there upon acquisition nearly 30 years ago. Of course, my response once I was able to speak again, was in the affirmative. It isn't everyday that a mint Luger is offered one; and to be a Krieghoff with matching cannons and mags put me into a headspin! So I now will allow the gun to speak for itself, adding only needed description. Credit must go to Jerry Burney, who took these images and talked me into doing a presentation to The Forum. Attached Thumbnails

01-29-2006, 11:46 PM	#2
hqbmw User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Mesa AZ Posts: 228 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	P 59 P 59 Attached Thumbnails

01-30-2006, 01:55 AM	#3
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,020 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,174 Times in 1,701 Posts	Heavens to Betsy...that is going to cause some palpitations in the community! Can't wait to see the excitement this treasure will generate. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

01-30-2006, 02:08 AM	#4
hqbmw User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Mesa AZ Posts: 228 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ron If I could just concentrate, this would be a breeze; but trying to get rid of this flu has my keyboard sizzling! I'll try to get some images posted tonight. Jack __________________ Jack Hiles Mesa AZ

01-30-2006, 02:11 AM	#5
hqbmw User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Mesa AZ Posts: 228 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	P 59 P 59 Attached Thumbnails

01-30-2006, 02:22 AM	#6
hqbmw User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Mesa AZ Posts: 228 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	P59 P59 Attached Thumbnails

01-30-2006, 02:33 AM	#7
hqbmw User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Mesa AZ Posts: 228 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	P 59 P 59

01-30-2006, 02:42 AM	#8
hqbmw User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Mesa AZ Posts: 228 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	You all have my sincere apologies for the poor presentation of this fine firearm. I am having a hell of a time getting my images resized and re-contented to appropriately fit The Forum. I now need to call on support or reshoot the entire shoot in lower definition. Anybody willing to help, please contact me at home on Monday at your convenience. Otherwise, I won't be able to share this with all. Jack Hiles Mesa, AZ 480 219 6676 __________________ Jack Hiles Mesa AZ

01-30-2006, 02:45 AM	#9
hqbmw User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Mesa AZ Posts: 228 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	P59 Last chance tonight Attached Thumbnails

01-30-2006, 10:26 AM	#10
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hi Jack, Send me your big files...I can resize for you and post them up... pebbink@pacbell.net

01-31-2006, 12:28 AM	#11
hqbmw User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Mesa AZ Posts: 228 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	P 59 P 59 bolt face showing virtually no wear and a minimal brass trail on the extractor. Attached Images

01-31-2006, 12:33 AM	#12
hqbmw User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Mesa AZ Posts: 228 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	P 59 P 59 9mm in 100mm length canon. This view shows the underside or the rail with a plug that appears to fill a hole for the rivet used to install the sear safety on a police gun. It is unnoticable from the top side and only seen after intense scrutiny on the bottom. Attached Images

01-31-2006, 12:40 AM	#13
hqbmw User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Mesa AZ Posts: 228 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	P 59 Police eagle on the bottom of matching magazine by Schmeisser. Found the eagle listed in Sam Costanzo's book page 79 Attached Thumbnails

01-31-2006, 12:48 AM	#14
hqbmw User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Mesa AZ Posts: 228 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	P 59 Note the machining mark at the top of the lug. It appears as if it drilled a hole beyond spec before finishing the lug track Attached Thumbnails

01-31-2006, 12:51 AM	#15
hqbmw User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Mesa AZ Posts: 228 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	P 59 Serial number on the front of the frame at the trigger guard with NO leg on the P. Germany export stamp and correct numbering of take down lever. Attached Thumbnails

01-31-2006, 01:01 AM	#16
hqbmw User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Mesa AZ Posts: 228 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	P 59 Safety and left rear of frame showing the Krieghoff contour. Attached Thumbnails

01-31-2006, 01:05 AM	#17
hqbmw User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Mesa AZ Posts: 228 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	P 59 Witness marking on the 9mm 100mm long fork Attached Thumbnails

01-31-2006, 01:07 AM	#18
hqbmw User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Mesa AZ Posts: 228 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	P 59 Witness marking on the 7.65mm 150mm long fork Attached Thumbnails

01-31-2006, 01:10 AM	#19
hqbmw User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Mesa AZ Posts: 228 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	P 59 Threaded hole on inside of grip. Both grips had two threaded holes to facilitate removal of the grip from its mold. All 4 are as new on P 59 Attached Thumbnails

01-31-2006, 01:12 AM	#20
hqbmw User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Mesa AZ Posts: 228 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	P 59 Note the champhered inside radius on the toggle knob inherent to Krieghoffs. Attached Thumbnails