An unusual advertisement of a 1900

alvin · 02-02-2008, 12:01 AM

I saw this advertisement page on the web..... don't know how old it is. It could be old news.

It might have been concluded for years. Maybe still be open. Here is the ad:

http://www.poudlard.com/annonce/guarino/luge1900.htm

Dwight Gruber · 02-02-2008, 10:10 AM

Alvin,

This one has been around for a long time. The owner appears to want a lot for it based on its unverifiable provenance, and no one appears to want to stick their neck--and their pocketbook--out quite that far.

--Dwight

Pete Ebbink · 02-02-2008, 02:29 PM

Luger SN 133 is obviously a nice restoration.

Here was the Owner's attempt at finding a "matching" gun to go with his # 133...so he could boost the sales price for a consecutive pair...

Here is his discussion thread over on Jan Still's gun boards :

http://luger.gunboards.com/topic.asp...hTerms=eastman

Another discusison on the Luger Forum back in 2005 :

http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthre...=Eastman+luger

alvin · 02-02-2008, 03:52 PM

I felt it's probably old news. It's amazing that no police record showing the full s/n of the suicide pistol.

Thanks for the links. Interesting reading. For s/n 133 itself, it looks pretty "healthy", any evidence of restoration?

Pete Ebbink · 02-02-2008, 06:25 PM

1. Lack of oxidation and patina.

2. Portions of the DWM scroll seem to have lost depth.

3. Odd color and finish of straw.

4. Seemingly no halos on the BUG proofs on the barrel.

BTW...various records of "George Eastman" traveling through Ellis Island in the early 1900's :

http://www.ellisislandrecords.org/se...et=0&dwpdone=1

Nice web site regarding Geo. Eastman :

http://www.eastmanhouse.org/inc/coll...man_legacy.php

StarOfTheWest · 02-02-2008, 06:52 PM

The owner's attitude sure showed through in his posts on the other board also.

If you have a good piece, you can always laugh it off and know in your heart you are right, or at least present your arguments calmly and rationally.

But it always seems the crooks or the swindled ones get very nasty and defensive.

Two million dollars!

I also wasn't surprised to see a certain dealer's name turn up in that thread either.

alvin · 02-02-2008, 07:50 PM

I reserve a little bit on this gun's finish. Anyway, I totally agree associating
this one with "a certain dealer" was pushing it to the reverse side. Human
nature is greedy.... back in 1999, I bought a small company's stock and the
price surged in a few weeks.... lucky.... only if I had sold it..... instead,
I took out a calculator pressing all those numbers imaging it's "true" value
and ..... the ticker symbol was de-listed in 2002.

So I assume this seller blindly believed that it's a 2M piece,

The market will tell.

02-02-2008, 12:01 AM	#1
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	An unusual advertisement of a 1900 I saw this advertisement page on the web..... don't know how old it is. It could be old news. It might have been concluded for years. Maybe still be open. Here is the ad: http://www.poudlard.com/annonce/guarino/luge1900.htm

02-02-2008, 06:52 PM	#6
StarOfTheWest User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: East Texas, CSA Posts: 208 Thanks: 81 Thanked 15 Times in 12 Posts	The owner's attitude sure showed through in his posts on the other board also. If you have a good piece, you can always laugh it off and know in your heart you are right, or at least present your arguments calmly and rationally. But it always seems the crooks or the swindled ones get very nasty and defensive. Two million dollars! I also wasn't surprised to see a certain dealer's name turn up in that thread either. __________________ Sorry, I take that back. I have no problem with the horse you rode in on.

02-02-2008, 10:10 AM	#2
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,889 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,281 Times in 423 Posts	Alvin, This one has been around for a long time. The owner appears to want a lot for it based on its unverifiable provenance, and no one appears to want to stick their neck--and their pocketbook--out quite that far. --Dwight

02-02-2008, 02:29 PM	#3
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Luger SN 133 is obviously a nice restoration. Here was the Owner's attempt at finding a "matching" gun to go with his # 133...so he could boost the sales price for a consecutive pair... Here is his discussion thread over on Jan Still's gun boards : http://luger.gunboards.com/topic.asp...hTerms=eastman Another discusison on the Luger Forum back in 2005 : http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthre...=Eastman+luger

02-02-2008, 03:52 PM	#4
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	I felt it's probably old news. It's amazing that no police record showing the full s/n of the suicide pistol. Thanks for the links. Interesting reading. For s/n 133 itself, it looks pretty "healthy", any evidence of restoration?

02-02-2008, 06:25 PM	#5
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	1. Lack of oxidation and patina. 2. Portions of the DWM scroll seem to have lost depth. 3. Odd color and finish of straw. 4. Seemingly no halos on the BUG proofs on the barrel. BTW...various records of "George Eastman" traveling through Ellis Island in the early 1900's : http://www.ellisislandrecords.org/se...et=0&dwpdone=1 Nice web site regarding Geo. Eastman : http://www.eastmanhouse.org/inc/coll...man_legacy.php

02-02-2008, 07:50 PM	#7
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	I reserve a little bit on this gun's finish. Anyway, I totally agree associating this one with "a certain dealer" was pushing it to the reverse side. Human nature is greedy.... back in 1999, I bought a small company's stock and the price surged in a few weeks.... lucky.... only if I had sold it..... instead, I took out a calculator pressing all those numbers imaging it's "true" value and ..... the ticker symbol was de-listed in 2002. So I assume this seller blindly believed that it's a 2M piece, The market will tell.