Question of perspective

Roadkill · 09-27-2003, 08:07 AM

Morning. Went over to a shootn buddy's back forty a week or so ago, (been on a military high power rifle shooting kick lately), talked about a lot of stuff, shot a bunch of ammo, killed a lot of terrorists, two or three attacking bears,a rabid dog or two, put down the drug crazed forcible entry multiple felon escapee with a AR, stopped charging NVA, saved a stunning near nude blonde from a fate worse than death, and of course at least one ex wife,(she died), you know, the classic southern white male fiftyish shooting scenarios, and while we were cleaning up the hardware and getting drunk I asked about his email address, wasn't able to reach him last time. Ouch. THE FEDS ARE WATCHING. THE CROOKS ARE WATCHING. THE GUN CONTROL LIBRALS ARE WATCHING. I GOT RID OF MY COMPUTER AND YOU SHOULD TOO. You would have thought I ran over his dog or refused a beer. Direction I'm going with this isn't the Ruby Ridge stuff but several things are obvious:

1. We have guns
2. Most all of us are civilians
3. Many of us have many guns
4. Many of you have many expensive guns
5. Many of you love to talk about your many expensive guns
6. Many of you post photos proudly of your expensive guns
7. Many of you/us provide photos of ourselves in relation to or actually with our many guns.

Is this a not potential disaster should action be taken by those who would like to acquire our hardware for either depraved political reasons or criminal activity?

rk

Edward Tinker · 09-27-2003, 11:31 AM

Yes, and we can worry our entires lives and never have fun.

I think that is why I got away from survivalism, everybody was always so worried.

If you really are worried, then buy some land, put 10k rounds of your favorite milsurp, along with five or ten rifles (many milsurps are cheap right now, Mosins worked for the Russians, they'll work for you), and asssorted pistols, and other gear, then bury it ten feet deep.

Then you can enjoy your "hobby" and yet have guns in case the poop ever hits the fan.

ed

front sight · 09-27-2003, 05:16 PM

I agree with ed. I think the thing we have to do is keep ressing the case for gun rights with cogent arguments. For example: When has gun control lowered the crime rate? A quick look at the mess that is England and rising crime rate in Australia provide some good evidense for our position. People who hide in the woods with their guns have very little ability to sway opinions, but people who write letters to their news papers, congress critters, and senators have at least a little. I think we also all need to keep our advocacy organizations like GOA, NRA and local grass roots outfits healthy, too. Do you think gay activists are scared and hiding? How do you think they have gotten where they are (for good or bad)?

Just my two cents.

John Sabato · 09-29-2003, 11:19 AM

Get back on your paranoia medication RK... and give some to your shootin' buddy too.

Just because you say you ain't paranoid doesn't mean nobody is out to get you... As one of my favorite radio preachers likes to say on a daily basis...lighten up and live... before all that worrying does you in...

A work colleage of mine has a bumper sticker on his 4x4 that says "I used to be schizophrenic, but WE'RE okay now" ... he also owns a lot of firearms AND computers.

Have a great day RK and get those students back to work!

John -Melb · 09-29-2003, 06:09 PM

Paranoia is nothing but a total awareness of your environment. The real scary part is that some threads on this forum I've had real trouble following recently, but I read this one and understand?

Roadkill · 09-29-2003, 07:36 PM

I guess you all are right, most likely I've been hanging around the survival forums too much again. I guess there is a difference between keeping a loaded shotgun or two around the house and 5K of .223, three ARs and three months of food and gear loaded in a 4WD ready to leave at a moment's notice. Ref the paranoia, I only do what three out of the four voices in my head tell me, but they have been speaking Spanish lately so I can't understand them. Guess I better quit than damn "EI" tv channel and stop watching the PRK recall stuff. I'm gonna go sit on the porch with my ugly dog. I lost Buster a while back so I'm breaking in a new one.

rk

Navy · 09-29-2003, 07:46 PM

Write, contribute and participate by helping your candidates at the local level. All politics is local.

Tom A

Ron Wood · 09-29-2003, 07:49 PM

Sorry to hear about Buster.

Roadkill · 09-29-2003, 08:50 PM

Thanks Ron, but maybe I wasn't clear. I mean I "lost" Buster meaning couldn't find him. Took the damn hound with me to a camp out in the Sipsey Wilderness area and he ran after a deer and never came back. I stayed two days and went back a week later but this is one big piece of backwoods about 45 miles from here. Probably found a girlfriend and went native. Ugly dogs aren't too hard to find anyway especially down here.

rk

Ron Wood · 09-29-2003, 11:51 PM

Roadkill,

Thanks for clearing up Buster's situation. I had assumed he was a member of the "dear departed" and not "deer departed". Still, I'm sorry for his loss.

G.W. Gill · 09-30-2003, 03:22 AM

Can we have an update on Buster if you find out what happened to him? On the other topic, a few hundred rounds of common ammunition stored away for our grandkids could be a prudent thought.

09-27-2003, 08:07 AM	#1
Roadkill User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,632 Thanks: 1 Thanked 28 Times in 17 Posts	Question of perspective Morning. Went over to a shootn buddy's back forty a week or so ago, (been on a military high power rifle shooting kick lately), talked about a lot of stuff, shot a bunch of ammo, killed a lot of terrorists, two or three attacking bears,a rabid dog or two, put down the drug crazed forcible entry multiple felon escapee with a AR, stopped charging NVA, saved a stunning near nude blonde from a fate worse than death, and of course at least one ex wife,(she died), you know, the classic southern white male fiftyish shooting scenarios, and while we were cleaning up the hardware and getting drunk I asked about his email address, wasn't able to reach him last time. Ouch. THE FEDS ARE WATCHING. THE CROOKS ARE WATCHING. THE GUN CONTROL LIBRALS ARE WATCHING. I GOT RID OF MY COMPUTER AND YOU SHOULD TOO. You would have thought I ran over his dog or refused a beer. Direction I'm going with this isn't the Ruby Ridge stuff but several things are obvious: 1. We have guns 2. Most all of us are civilians 3. Many of us have many guns 4. Many of you have many expensive guns 5. Many of you love to talk about your many expensive guns 6. Many of you post photos proudly of your expensive guns 7. Many of you/us provide photos of ourselves in relation to or actually with our many guns. Is this a not potential disaster should action be taken by those who would like to acquire our hardware for either depraved political reasons or criminal activity? rk

09-27-2003, 11:31 AM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,914 Thanks: 1,989 Thanked 4,504 Times in 2,079 Posts	Yes, and we can worry our entires lives and never have fun. I think that is why I got away from survivalism, everybody was always so worried. If you really are worried, then buy some land, put 10k rounds of your favorite milsurp, along with five or ten rifles (many milsurps are cheap right now, Mosins worked for the Russians, they'll work for you), and asssorted pistols, and other gear, then bury it ten feet deep. Then you can enjoy your "hobby" and yet have guns in case the poop ever hits the fan. ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

09-27-2003, 05:16 PM	#3
front sight User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 36 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I agree with ed. I think the thing we have to do is keep ressing the case for gun rights with cogent arguments. For example: When has gun control lowered the crime rate? A quick look at the mess that is England and rising crime rate in Australia provide some good evidense for our position. People who hide in the woods with their guns have very little ability to sway opinions, but people who write letters to their news papers, congress critters, and senators have at least a little. I think we also all need to keep our advocacy organizations like GOA, NRA and local grass roots outfits healthy, too. Do you think gay activists are scared and hiding? How do you think they have gotten where they are (for good or bad)? Just my two cents. __________________ When buying and selling are controlled by legislation, the first things to be bought and sold are legislators. -- P.J. O'Rourke

09-29-2003, 11:19 AM	#4
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Get back on your paranoia medication RK... and give some to your shootin' buddy too. Just because you say you ain't paranoid doesn't mean nobody is out to get you... As one of my favorite radio preachers likes to say on a daily basis...lighten up and live... before all that worrying does you in... A work colleage of mine has a bumper sticker on his 4x4 that says "I used to be schizophrenic, but WE'RE okay now" ... he also owns a lot of firearms AND computers. Have a great day RK and get those students back to work! __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

09-29-2003, 07:49 PM	#8
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,988 Thanks: 1,067 Thanked 5,099 Times in 1,676 Posts	Sorry to hear about Buster. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

09-29-2003, 06:09 PM	#5
John -Melb User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Melbourne, Peoples Republic of Australia! Posts: 145 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Paranoia is nothing but a total awareness of your environment. The real scary part is that some threads on this forum I've had real trouble following recently, but I read this one and understand?

09-29-2003, 07:36 PM	#6
Roadkill User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,632 Thanks: 1 Thanked 28 Times in 17 Posts	I guess you all are right, most likely I've been hanging around the survival forums too much again. I guess there is a difference between keeping a loaded shotgun or two around the house and 5K of .223, three ARs and three months of food and gear loaded in a 4WD ready to leave at a moment's notice. Ref the paranoia, I only do what three out of the four voices in my head tell me, but they have been speaking Spanish lately so I can't understand them. Guess I better quit than damn "EI" tv channel and stop watching the PRK recall stuff. I'm gonna go sit on the porch with my ugly dog. I lost Buster a while back so I'm breaking in a new one. rk

09-29-2003, 07:46 PM	#7
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	Write, contribute and participate by helping your candidates at the local level. All politics is local. Tom A

09-29-2003, 08:50 PM	#9
Roadkill User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,632 Thanks: 1 Thanked 28 Times in 17 Posts	Thanks Ron, but maybe I wasn't clear. I mean I "lost" Buster meaning couldn't find him. Took the damn hound with me to a camp out in the Sipsey Wilderness area and he ran after a deer and never came back. I stayed two days and went back a week later but this is one big piece of backwoods about 45 miles from here. Probably found a girlfriend and went native. Ugly dogs aren't too hard to find anyway especially down here. rk

09-29-2003, 11:51 PM	#10
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,988 Thanks: 1,067 Thanked 5,099 Times in 1,676 Posts	Roadkill, Thanks for clearing up Buster's situation. I had assumed he was a member of the "dear departed" and not "deer departed". Still, I'm sorry for his loss. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

09-30-2003, 03:22 AM	#11
G.W. Gill User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeastern USA Posts: 369 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Can we have an update on Buster if you find out what happened to him? On the other topic, a few hundred rounds of common ammunition stored away for our grandkids could be a prudent thought.