Nickel or Stainless Erfurt Military marked luger

patsy57 · 11-06-2007, 08:28 PM

Has anyone ever seen a nickel or chrome erfurt marked 1910 luger? If so what is this type called?

Edward Tinker · 11-06-2007, 08:31 PM

welcome patsy, NONE of them are original like that. In fact, I just bought a 1917 DWM that is nickled. They were all done that way after the war (WW2 usually), as WW1 guns were brought home by GI's from WW2, but it could have been done any time after WW1, but NOT by the german gov't.

So, I guess they'd be called after-market lugers, and sell for less than a shooter price usually ($500)
ed

Pete Ebbink · 11-06-2007, 08:35 PM

A true 1910-dated Erfurt...even plated...is a rare bird...1910's dates are most rare.

Does the pistol you mention have a 2-digit serial number on the front of the frame...just above the trigger guard...???...

patsy57 · 11-06-2007, 08:41 PM

I know it is original since it was brought back from the war by a family member. He took it off the officer himself and carried it with him throughout the war. I believe it has a three digit number not two.

Edward Tinker · 11-06-2007, 09:00 PM

not orignally plated. There were none issued, nor carried that way by the german army.

It was common for GI's to have them plated right after the war, they could have them plated for less than a carton of cigarretes

Dwight Gruber · 11-06-2007, 11:52 PM

Patrick,

Up until about five years ago 1910 dated Erfurt Lugers were not thought to exist. Since then two have surfaced and have been thogoughly examined; one of them has impeccable provinence. Parts of a third are rumored, but the gun or photographs have not been examined.

If your Erfurt is truly a 1910 it is a very significant gun. There are subtle details which would help verify it; unfortunately plating would conceal some of these details. Is it possible for you to post clear, detailed closeups of all the gun's markings, particularly the logo on the top of the toggle, the proof marks on the right receiver, right top of the barrel, left breechblock? Are the detents for the thumb safety lever dimples, or are they drilled clear through the frame?

Be assured that no P-08 which left the factory, or served with the German army in combat, was ever originally nickel-plated.

--Dwight

patsy57 · 11-07-2007, 09:34 AM

Thanks for all the help. I will take pictures and post

11-06-2007, 08:28 PM	#1
patsy57 User Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 31 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 4 Posts	Nickel or Stainless Erfurt Military marked luger Has anyone ever seen a nickel or chrome erfurt marked 1910 luger? If so what is this type called?

11-06-2007, 08:31 PM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,911 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,502 Times in 2,077 Posts	welcome patsy, NONE of them are original like that. In fact, I just bought a 1917 DWM that is nickled. They were all done that way after the war (WW2 usually), as WW1 guns were brought home by GI's from WW2, but it could have been done any time after WW1, but NOT by the german gov't. So, I guess they'd be called after-market lugers, and sell for less than a shooter price usually ($500) ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

11-06-2007, 09:00 PM	#5
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,911 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,502 Times in 2,077 Posts	not orignally plated. There were none issued, nor carried that way by the german army. It was common for GI's to have them plated right after the war, they could have them plated for less than a carton of cigarretes __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

11-06-2007, 08:35 PM	#3
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	A true 1910-dated Erfurt...even plated...is a rare bird...1910's dates are most rare. Does the pistol you mention have a 2-digit serial number on the front of the frame...just above the trigger guard...???...

11-06-2007, 08:41 PM	#4
patsy57 User Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 31 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 4 Posts	I know it is original since it was brought back from the war by a family member. He took it off the officer himself and carried it with him throughout the war. I believe it has a three digit number not two.

11-06-2007, 11:52 PM	#6
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,890 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,282 Times in 424 Posts	Patrick, Up until about five years ago 1910 dated Erfurt Lugers were not thought to exist. Since then two have surfaced and have been thogoughly examined; one of them has impeccable provinence. Parts of a third are rumored, but the gun or photographs have not been examined. If your Erfurt is truly a 1910 it is a very significant gun. There are subtle details which would help verify it; unfortunately plating would conceal some of these details. Is it possible for you to post clear, detailed closeups of all the gun's markings, particularly the logo on the top of the toggle, the proof marks on the right receiver, right top of the barrel, left breechblock? Are the detents for the thumb safety lever dimples, or are they drilled clear through the frame? Be assured that no P-08 which left the factory, or served with the German army in combat, was ever originally nickel-plated. --Dwight

11-07-2007, 09:34 AM	#7
patsy57 User Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 31 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 4 Posts	Thanks for all the help. I will take pictures and post