Reload data

Rupi52 · 01-07-2017, 06:04 AM

As a new member that got recently a P08, 9mm, code byf, and intending to use it for sport shooting of ordenanza handguns, would like to know if anyone could supply a data base for European powders for reloading.
I am trying 115 and 124 grs,FMJ bullets and using (till now) Nobel Sport Vectan Powders, mainly BA9 and BA10.

I have a start load of 4,5 grs BA9 and a maxime load of 5,1, but have not yet time to try it.

Any information about this would be great.

Thank you guys.

kurusu · 01-07-2017, 09:08 AM

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rhuff · 01-07-2017, 03:04 PM

Kurusu is your man for info as he in also in Portugal, and is familiar with the available powders in that part of the world. I wish that I could assist you, but am totally unfamiliar with the powders available to you.

mrerick · 01-07-2017, 04:25 PM

Hello, and welcome to the forum.

There are online articles mentioning Nobel Vectan BA9 powder. Here are some I saw:

http://mp-pistol.com/mp-reloading/18157-reloading-vectan-ba9-powder.html

Manufacturer load data is at:

http://www.vectan.fr/UK/range-of-powders

The data on their site looks reasonably complete for 9mm Luger.

Remember that they develop these experimentally. They are not guidelines and not recipies. They are specific measured experimental results. When you vary from them in any way, you are performing your own experiment.

Never go below the minimum or above the maximum load. Use the same bullet (brand, construction, profile) that they used, and the same primer if you can obtain it.

Lugers may have individual loads that are better and more accurate than others. The best way to develop the load for your specific gun is by making a series of graduated loads using the same components for each cartridge. Work from just above the minimum load to just below the maximum load. Use a chronograph and a Ransom rest (this is a shooting rest that physically attaches the pistol to a solid base). Any testing done by hand introduces another variable that you would be better to eliminate.

A series of 10 cartridges at each experimental charge level should help you find a particularly good load for your individual Luger.

Marc

Rupi52 · 01-08-2017, 07:05 AM

Thanks Guys.

noylj · 01-11-2017, 06:51 PM

Is your gun a 9x19 and not a re-barreled gun in some government-approved other 9mm variant?
Always start at the start load and work up the load.
Vectan, Nobel, VV appear to be the biggies.
You can get some load data from the web site, you can get some load data from their "free" manuals (if they have them), or you can look for a complete manual. Attached is some data from Vectan.

01-07-2017, 06:04 AM	#1
Rupi52 User Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Portugal Posts: 10 Thanks: 4 Thanked 12 Times in 8 Posts	Reload data As a new member that got recently a P08, 9mm, code byf, and intending to use it for sport shooting of ordenanza handguns, would like to know if anyone could supply a data base for European powders for reloading. I am trying 115 and 124 grs,FMJ bullets and using (till now) Nobel Sport Vectan Powders, mainly BA9 and BA10. I have a start load of 4,5 grs BA9 and a maxime load of 5,1, but have not yet time to try it. Any information about this would be great. Thank you guys. Last edited by Rupi52; 01-07-2017 at 07:05 AM.

01-07-2017, 04:25 PM	#4
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,900 Thanks: 1,370 Thanked 3,094 Times in 1,503 Posts	Hello, and welcome to the forum. There are online articles mentioning Nobel Vectan BA9 powder. Here are some I saw: http://mp-pistol.com/mp-reloading/18157-reloading-vectan-ba9-powder.html Manufacturer load data is at: http://www.vectan.fr/UK/range-of-powders The data on their site looks reasonably complete for 9mm Luger. Remember that they develop these experimentally. They are not guidelines and not recipies. They are specific measured experimental results. When you vary from them in any way, you are performing your own experiment. Never go below the minimum or above the maximum load. Use the same bullet (brand, construction, profile) that they used, and the same primer if you can obtain it. Lugers may have individual loads that are better and more accurate than others. The best way to develop the load for your specific gun is by making a series of graduated loads using the same components for each cartridge. Work from just above the minimum load to just below the maximum load. Use a chronograph and a Ransom rest (this is a shooting rest that physically attaches the pistol to a solid base). Any testing done by hand introduces another variable that you would be better to eliminate. A series of 10 cartridges at each experimental charge level should help you find a particularly good load for your individual Luger. Marc __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

01-11-2017, 06:51 PM	#6
noylj User Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 41 Thanks: 0 Thanked 13 Times in 12 Posts	Is your gun a 9x19 and not a re-barreled gun in some government-approved other 9mm variant? Always start at the start load and work up the load. Vectan, Nobel, VV appear to be the biggies. You can get some load data from the web site, you can get some load data from their "free" manuals (if they have them), or you can look for a complete manual. Attached is some data from Vectan. Attached Thumbnails

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rhuff Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Az. Posts: 2,270 Thanks: 2,686 Thanked 958 Times in 704 Posts	Kurusu is your man for info as he in also in Portugal, and is familiar with the available powders in that part of the world. I wish that I could assist you, but am totally unfamiliar with the powders available to you.

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Rupi52 User Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Portugal Posts: 10 Thanks: 4 Thanked 12 Times in 8 Posts	Thanks Guys.