Tim Babcock UPDATE!!!

ratdog · 08-13-2007, 06:23 AM

Appears to be using another email and name, just received a mail from him asking for his holster back and saying I ripped him off!!!!! GEEEEE, lets see, I paid 250$ for a 50$ holster and an additional 350$ deposit for a pistol, which I backed out on due to the crappiness of the holster (didn't trust seller after holster was received), he kept all the money and now says I ripped him off?!?!?!?!!? Here is his email he used:
anonymous.a5609d187d@anonymousspeech.com and here is the name he signed: chadce
Admin please post as a "BEWARE"......................B

Edward Tinker · 08-13-2007, 08:40 AM

bruce, there must "really" be something wrong in his noggin? I mean, he screwed you over and you gave him flack and now he is weighing in again? Is he thinking like a nigerian scam, he notifies x number of people he has dealt with and 1% send money back?

I guess threatening legal action would do nothing....

Ed

ratdog · 08-13-2007, 09:22 AM

I sent the holster back to him 9 mos ago, he then said he would refund 200 of the 250$ I paid, I figured some of 600$ would be better than none!!! Now he says I screwed him cause he never received the holster, nor have I received ANY money back, so how is he screwed?!?!?!?!? Here is his actual email: QUOTE"I still have not reieved the holster you owe me.
You said several months ago you were going to send me my holster back.
You have trashed my good name and reputation and then ripped me off of
my holster. WTF.
It was a good 41 dated holster. I have another buyer that wants it."UNQUOTE. As far as I see it, if holster was lost in the mail (doubtful) it should be no hair of his back, he still has my money. It's my loss either WAY!!!!! Anyway, I gave up on him, not worth my time, just letting the forum know.......................Bruce

Ron Smith · 08-13-2007, 09:29 AM

Sounds like Ol' Tim is a major mental case.

I'd tell him to go ahead and drink KoolAid , cause the Mother Ship threw a muffler bearing and had to go back.

"You have trashed my good name"

Which one....???

~Posted by Orv Reichert on the P.38 forum~

Tim's aliases:

quote:
Tim Babcock
Allan Babcock
Jennie Bab ****
Allen Pope
Louis Sypher
Ed Teach (NOTE)
Jim Young
Jack Rackham "alic palus"

Forum names:
howelldavis
migileto
me262
kilroy2

Ebay names:

biggeorgenelson
rebbelyell4u
kilroy2@voyager.net

Emails:

buck566@lycos.com
regalia@hotmail.com
regalia@totls.com
timbcen21@intergate.com
elysianfield@intergate.com
kilroy2@intergate.com (NOTE)
kilroy21@intergate.com
stigma19@hotmail.com
hehova1914@hotmail.com
derspinna@intergate.com (NOTE)
barbarosa@intergate.com

lew1 · 08-13-2007, 11:05 AM

Bruce

Did you use the 'Delivery Confirmation' option when you sent the holster back?

ratdog · 08-13-2007, 12:28 PM

I knew he wouldn't refund my money, so I sent it back at the lowest cost to me. I have given up on seeing the money, I just wanted to alert the forum what name he is also using now. Later,.........................B

Pete Ebbink · 08-13-2007, 12:31 PM

I would have sent him a U-Tube video clip of his holster in my fire pit...

...followed up with a box of ashes...

lew1 · 08-13-2007, 01:44 PM

Good thinking Pete

davidkachel · 08-13-2007, 04:18 PM

ratdog,

Delivery confirmation from the PO costs just $1.50. It is worth it. With this, people absolutely cannot claim they did not receive the item sent AND you have evidence of mail fraud... nasty federal charges people will usually eviscerate themselves to avoid.

ratdog · 08-13-2007, 04:57 PM

You are correct about the heroin!!!!

lugerholsterrepair · 08-13-2007, 07:09 PM

David, You can get delivery confirmation for free on a priority mail pkg if you print out the internet version . Besides it's not $1.50 but .65 cents. .75 on 1st class.
This a$$hole robbed me on a $400 dollar dagger deal. I hope he roasts in hell. Jerry Burney

davidkachel · 08-15-2007, 10:58 AM

Jerry,
I know how you feel. I haven't been gotten to that badly, but of the last four purchases over the internet, I got screwed on three of them: the reason those are my LAST four purchases over the internet. From now on, I either see it before I put down a single dollar, or I get it from an established member of this forum or someone one of those members vouches for.
Life is too short to allow the desire to get my hands on something put me at risk of a sour deal; one sour deal takes the sweetness out of the next ten.

ratdog · 08-15-2007, 11:12 AM

David, thats the way I feel now about trying to buy anything, that A-Hole took me for 600$, and filing complaints with DA's and the PO were useless. So I figure my buying days are over and no one will EVER do that to me again!!!! Later.......................B

danzig · 08-15-2007, 02:36 PM

I almost bought a 1941 luger from this seller on guns america.

ratdog · 08-15-2007, 05:52 PM

That Luger was the one he offered me, with the POS holster he bought from Ruptured Duck for 175 and sold to me for 250$. You can do a search of his name on here for the full story, the guy is slime and a con artist. He ripped off other people on a site I believe is called the Wehrmacht awards site or something like that, he did under the handle of "me262". POS A-HOLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

danzig · 08-16-2007, 10:04 AM

The luger looked good from the photos, but I could not swing it. I think he was asking 1500 for it.
Glad I did not go for it.
BTW his user name was jim babcock but when I asked about where to send the money he said to send it to chet dae michigan I forget what town.
I dont know if chet is the real name or not.

thegundude · 08-16-2007, 02:00 PM

Someone should pay him a visit...

Are you sure he's not in western NC?

ratdog · 08-17-2007, 05:06 AM

Danzig, his name is Tim Babcock, his address WAS Wolverine Michigan, but in the one mail he mentioned he has moved south. JUST BE AWARE OF THIS GUY< HE HAS A BAD REP!!!!!!! Just go look at Axis History Forum and search his name............................http://forum.axishistory.com/

danzig · 08-17-2007, 08:27 AM

I did a search and there are a butt load of tim babcocks in michigan.
Not to mention in the usa. If I could get a bit more information about him maybe I could find if he did move and if so where. Do you have an exclusive info on this guy?

ratdog · 08-17-2007, 11:05 AM

just a po box in Wolverine, MI 49799

08-13-2007, 06:23 AM	#1
ratdog User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 147 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Tim Babcock UPDATE!!! Appears to be using another email and name, just received a mail from him asking for his holster back and saying I ripped him off!!!!! GEEEEE, lets see, I paid 250$ for a 50$ holster and an additional 350$ deposit for a pistol, which I backed out on due to the crappiness of the holster (didn't trust seller after holster was received), he kept all the money and now says I ripped him off?!?!?!?!!? Here is his email he used: anonymous.a5609d187d@anonymousspeech.com and here is the name he signed: chadce Admin please post as a "BEWARE"......................B

08-13-2007, 08:40 AM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,909 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,500 Times in 2,076 Posts	bruce, there must "really" be something wrong in his noggin? I mean, he screwed you over and you gave him flack and now he is weighing in again? Is he thinking like a nigerian scam, he notifies x number of people he has dealt with and 1% send money back? I guess threatening legal action would do nothing.... Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

08-13-2007, 09:29 AM	#4
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Sounds like Ol' Tim is a major mental case. I'd tell him to go ahead and drink KoolAid , cause the Mother Ship threw a muffler bearing and had to go back. "You have trashed my good name" Which one....??? ~Posted by Orv Reichert on the P.38 forum~ Tim's aliases: quote: Tim Babcock Allan Babcock Jennie Bab ** Allen Pope Louis Sypher Ed Teach (NOTE) Jim Young Jack Rackham "alic palus" Forum names: howelldavis migileto me262 kilroy2 Ebay names: biggeorgenelson rebbelyell4u kilroy2@voyager.net Emails: buck566@lycos.com regalia@hotmail.com regalia@totls.com timbcen21@intergate.com elysianfield@intergate.com kilroy2@intergate.com (NOTE) kilroy21@intergate.com stigma19@hotmail.com hehova1914@hotmail.com derspinna@intergate.com (NOTE) barbarosa@intergate.com __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~** said...

08-13-2007, 11:05 AM	#5
lew1 Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,108 Thanks: 82 Thanked 204 Times in 112 Posts	Bruce Did you use the 'Delivery Confirmation' option when you sent the holster back? __________________ charlie

08-13-2007, 12:31 PM	#7
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	I would have sent him a U-Tube video clip of his holster in my fire pit......followed up with a box of ashes...

08-13-2007, 09:22 AM	#3
ratdog User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 147 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I sent the holster back to him 9 mos ago, he then said he would refund 200 of the 250$ I paid, I figured some of 600$ would be better than none!!! Now he says I screwed him cause he never received the holster, nor have I received ANY money back, so how is he screwed?!?!?!?!? Here is his actual email: QUOTE"I still have not reieved the holster you owe me. You said several months ago you were going to send me my holster back. You have trashed my good name and reputation and then ripped me off of my holster. WTF. It was a good 41 dated holster. I have another buyer that wants it."UNQUOTE. As far as I see it, if holster was lost in the mail (doubtful) it should be no hair of his back, he still has my money. It's my loss either WAY!!!!! Anyway, I gave up on him, not worth my time, just letting the forum know.......................Bruce

08-13-2007, 12:28 PM	#6
ratdog User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 147 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I knew he wouldn't refund my money, so I sent it back at the lowest cost to me. I have given up on seeing the money, I just wanted to alert the forum what name he is also using now. Later,.........................B

08-13-2007, 01:44 PM	#8
lew1 Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,108 Thanks: 82 Thanked 204 Times in 112 Posts	Good thinking Pete __________________ charlie

08-13-2007, 04:18 PM	#9
davidkachel User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 784 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	ratdog, Delivery confirmation from the PO costs just $1.50. It is worth it. With this, people absolutely cannot claim they did not receive the item sent AND you have evidence of mail fraud... nasty federal charges people will usually eviscerate themselves to avoid. __________________ A heroin habit would be cheaper.

08-13-2007, 04:57 PM	#10
ratdog User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 147 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	You are correct about the heroin!!!!

08-13-2007, 07:09 PM	#11
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,760 Thanks: 4,848 Thanked 3,099 Times in 1,426 Posts	David, You can get delivery confirmation for free on a priority mail pkg if you print out the internet version . Besides it's not $1.50 but .65 cents. .75 on 1st class. This a$$hole robbed me on a $400 dollar dagger deal. I hope he roasts in hell. Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

08-15-2007, 10:58 AM	#12
davidkachel User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 784 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Jerry, I know how you feel. I haven't been gotten to that badly, but of the last four purchases over the internet, I got screwed on three of them: the reason those are my LAST four purchases over the internet. From now on, I either see it before I put down a single dollar, or I get it from an established member of this forum or someone one of those members vouches for. Life is too short to allow the desire to get my hands on something put me at risk of a sour deal; one sour deal takes the sweetness out of the next ten. __________________ A heroin habit would be cheaper.

08-15-2007, 11:12 AM	#13
ratdog User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 147 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	David, thats the way I feel now about trying to buy anything, that A-Hole took me for 600$, and filing complaints with DA's and the PO were useless. So I figure my buying days are over and no one will EVER do that to me again!!!! Later.......................B

08-15-2007, 02:36 PM	#14
danzig Banned Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: kansas Posts: 111 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I almost bought a 1941 luger from this seller on guns america.

08-15-2007, 05:52 PM	#15
ratdog User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 147 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	That Luger was the one he offered me, with the POS holster he bought from Ruptured Duck for 175 and sold to me for 250$. You can do a search of his name on here for the full story, the guy is slime and a con artist. He ripped off other people on a site I believe is called the Wehrmacht awards site or something like that, he did under the handle of "me262". POS A-HOLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

08-16-2007, 10:04 AM	#16
danzig Banned Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: kansas Posts: 111 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	The luger looked good from the photos, but I could not swing it. I think he was asking 1500 for it. Glad I did not go for it. BTW his user name was jim babcock but when I asked about where to send the money he said to send it to chet dae michigan I forget what town. I dont know if chet is the real name or not.

08-16-2007, 02:00 PM	#17
thegundude User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Western NC Posts: 1,137 Thanks: 3 Thanked 16 Times in 3 Posts	Someone should pay him a visit... Are you sure he's not in western NC? __________________ Keep your knees in the breeze and your iron in the air. ~Steve

08-17-2007, 05:06 AM	#18
ratdog User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 147 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Danzig, his name is Tim Babcock, his address WAS Wolverine Michigan, but in the one mail he mentioned he has moved south. JUST BE AWARE OF THIS GUY< HE HAS A BAD REP!!!!!!! Just go look at Axis History Forum and search his name............................http://forum.axishistory.com/

08-17-2007, 08:27 AM	#19
danzig Banned Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: kansas Posts: 111 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I did a search and there are a butt load of tim babcocks in michigan. Not to mention in the usa. If I could get a bit more information about him maybe I could find if he did move and if so where. Do you have an exclusive info on this guy?

08-17-2007, 11:05 AM	#20
ratdog User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 147 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	just a po box in Wolverine, MI 49799