1918 Holster ID Help... - Page 2

Pete Ebbink · 08-22-2003, 11:06 AM

Jerry,

Regarding Reno in November, I have sent you a Private Message.

Also; weather and certainly driving to the November Reno show can be "iffy"...flying into the show might be a safer bet...

All,

Thanks again for such great info. on my 1918 holster. I have printed out portions of these discussions and have placed them, in plastic, inside the holster for future owners's use and education...

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

Ron Wood · 08-22-2003, 02:37 PM

George,

When Alsace-Lorraine was part of the Reichsland from 1871 to 1918, Mulhouse was in the Bezirk (district) of Ober-Elsass and was known, as you correctly stated, MÃ?Â¼hlhausen (literally Ã¢??mill houses"). It was the seat of government for the Landkreis (county) of MÃ?Â¼hlhausen.

I still believe that the most likely origin of Pete's holster is MÃ?Â¼lheim an der Ruhr.

colcolombo · 08-23-2003, 07:39 PM

Pete,
Take a look at this link. It might clear up some of the confusion.

www.germanbuckles.com/ImpEraLeather.html

Joe

colcolombo · 08-23-2003, 08:09 PM

Here is one of the sources of the reproduction holsters complete with any marking you want.

www.ima-usa.com/p15.html

Joe

Pete Ebbink · 08-23-2003, 08:20 PM

Hello Joe,

Thanks so much for the reprint of the Imperial holster makers list...I have saved it to my library...appreciate the web link !

I was/am also familiar with the IMA folks, as they advertise regularly in SGN...but there is really no way of passing off a recent piece of leather as WWII, no matter how "correct" the stampings might be...50-60 years from now, such 2003's era holsters might be fooling some folks...

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

pisto · 12-30-2003, 06:42 PM

Hello Pete,

I have the same markings in a 1916 holster, that was my own for years and I didnÃ?Â´t realize it!
it is: Rudolf Wiemer&Co. MÃ?Â¼lheim-Ruhr, which is near to DÃ?Â¼sseldorf.

MÃ?Â¼lheim an der Ruhr map:http://www.map24.de/map24/routing.php3?map24_sid=7457a71c3402ad25554af1c8eb649410&newroute=1&map24 _sid=7457a71c3402ad25554af1c8eb649410&sstreet=Stra%DFe&szip=PLZ&scity=d% FCssel dorf&scountry=de&dstreet=Stra%DFe&dzip=PLZ&dcity=m%FClheim+ruhr&dcountry =de&rtype=fast&desctype=standard&loadlimiter=&usecity=&maptype=JAVA&mid= MAP24&x=68&y=11

08-22-2003, 02:37 PM	#22
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,986 Thanks: 1,065 Thanked 5,088 Times in 1,674 Posts	George, When Alsace-Lorraine was part of the Reichsland from 1871 to 1918, Mulhouse was in the Bezirk (district) of Ober-Elsass and was known, as you correctly stated, MÃ?Â¼hlhausen (literally Ã¢??mill houses"). It was the seat of government for the Landkreis (county) of MÃ?Â¼hlhausen. I still believe that the most likely origin of Pete's holster is MÃ?Â¼lheim an der Ruhr. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

08-22-2003, 11:06 AM	#21
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Jerry, Regarding Reno in November, I have sent you a Private Message. Also; weather and certainly driving to the November Reno show can be "iffy"...flying into the show might be a safer bet... All, Thanks again for such great info. on my 1918 holster. I have printed out portions of these discussions and have placed them, in plastic, inside the holster for future owners's use and education... Regards, Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

08-23-2003, 07:39 PM	#23
colcolombo User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Kentucky Posts: 75 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Pete, Take a look at this link. It might clear up some of the confusion. www.germanbuckles.com/ImpEraLeather.html Joe

08-23-2003, 08:09 PM	#24
colcolombo User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Kentucky Posts: 75 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Here is one of the sources of the reproduction holsters complete with any marking you want. www.ima-usa.com/p15.html Joe

08-23-2003, 08:20 PM	#25
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hello Joe, Thanks so much for the reprint of the Imperial holster makers list...I have saved it to my library...appreciate the web link ! I was/am also familiar with the IMA folks, as they advertise regularly in SGN...but there is really no way of passing off a recent piece of leather as WWII, no matter how "correct" the stampings might be...50-60 years from now, such 2003's era holsters might be fooling some folks... Regards, Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

12-30-2003, 06:42 PM	#26
pisto User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 228 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hello Pete, I have the same markings in a 1916 holster, that was my own for years and I didnÃ?Â´t realize it! it is: Rudolf Wiemer&Co. MÃ?Â¼lheim-Ruhr, which is near to DÃ?Â¼sseldorf. MÃ?Â¼lheim an der Ruhr map:http://www.map24.de/map24/routing.php3?map24_sid=7457a71c3402ad25554af1c8eb649410&newroute=1&map24 _sid=7457a71c3402ad25554af1c8eb649410&sstreet=Stra%DFe&szip=PLZ&scity=d% FCssel dorf&scountry=de&dstreet=Stra%DFe&dzip=PLZ&dcity=m%FClheim+ruhr&dcountry =de&rtype=fast&desctype=standard&loadlimiter=&usecity=&maptype=JAVA&mid= MAP24&x=68&y=11