Side Menu/Main Page

Thor · 06-05-2001, 07:23 AM

Appears to be missing something this morning, Links and Resources do not appear and perhaps somehting else but I am not sure what all was there. I see the Message Board and Rogues Gallery Link, the History of the Luger, the Techinical Information and the General Information, Owners Corner and Unsorted Photos, followed by the Counter banner. What is missing? ~Thor~

John D. · 06-05-2001, 07:32 AM

The only thing missing is an AOL browser that works 100% of the time!!

Seriously - it's all there from "A-Z", "Soups to Nuts", Message Board - LUGER OF THE MONTH"...

Oh - then you probably can't see the NEW SECTION Dok must'a put up early this AM called "TED'S EXCELLENT EXAMPLES"???

He opens that section by saying it's only a temporary section.. Shhesssh - hope AOL gets their problems squared away before Dok takes it down.....

(LOL!!!! )

Thor · 06-05-2001, 07:56 AM

Turkey!

06-05-2001, 08:34 AM

I am using AOL and I am also missing the same info.

06-05-2001, 08:40 AM

Sorry John, but there is something missing! It appears that the counter icon and Dok's email icon are covering up something below Links & Resources. I don't remember what it was (or is) but the icons have moved up for sure.

And I'm not using AOL But am using Netscape 4.76

John D. · 06-05-2001, 08:46 AM

OK - what I think it is that in the MENU column - there is a "frame in a frame" (right DOK??). If you use larger fonts - then the line spacing of the menuitems pushes the lower categories off the menu (actually *behind* the other page frame)...

If you folks "decrease" your font size "]" a size - do you see more categories?? My guess would be yes..?? Hey DOK - maybe Ted is right on this - your thoughts???

John D. · 06-05-2001, 08:53 AM

This is a partial screen shot of an AOL session I'm just tried..??

http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/aolwindow.jpg

Dok · 06-05-2001, 09:07 AM

This is definitely an AOL problem, I got an email from Paul R. with exactly the same problem. The sidebar menu is now two frames (instead of one) on top of each other, separated at the Visitor Counter. The concept of "Larger Fonts" may be at the bottom of it, and if you can make the the top frame say "Smaller Font" maybe it will reduce to show the entire menu. The menu should read:

Owner's Corner

Unsorted Photos

Links & Resources

Classifieds

LUGER of the MONTH

See the example below... I'm afraid someone with more PC/AOL experience than me is needed here...

Dok

http://209.25.36.37/Parabellum/LugerForum.jpg

06-05-2001, 09:09 AM

Yesterday Dok's Icon was below and to the right of the Counter Icon. It looks like Dok tried to put it even with the Counter and ended up deleting too many CR's.

If you set your screen resolution HIGHER (I use 1024 x 768) more information will show up. To do that you need to (In Windows 95 & 98) right click anywhere on the desktop that doesn't have an icon - go to Properties - then click on the tab at the top of the window marked Settings. You will see a slider that can be moved to a different resolution. Change it to what you like best. Try it you might like it.

John D. · 06-05-2001, 09:14 AM

And change the FRAMESET declarations to hard pixel values?

06-05-2001, 09:16 AM

Dok, it's appearently a Netscape problem too! I'm not using AOL and it's doing the same thing here. Since I use a higher resolution than some I have more showing up, but something changed that moved the two icons up.

Frank · 06-05-2001, 09:22 AM

Dok · 06-05-2001, 09:30 AM

pixels are set at 335H and 170W...

Dok · 06-05-2001, 09:31 AM

And what about this "Larger Font" thing???

Dok · 06-05-2001, 09:41 AM

my frameset. Check it out and see if you can offer any explanation or suggestions for improvement.

Dok

John Sabato · 06-05-2001, 10:17 AM

I think Frank may be seeing cached pages from his own cache or maybe his provider's proxy servers...because I have the same issue with IE 5.5 as the netscape and aol users...

two left frames... the lower one with the counter and dok's email slides with the width of the window and can cover up the upper frame depending on your resolution. These conditions are not really a monitor for me as I have a 19 inch monitor and run 1600x1200 resolution and the second frame naturally falls to the bottom of my large screen.

Changing font size (using the view menu) from medium to larger sizes makes the left frame text run past the fixed width...

The lugerforum.com at the top of the left frame is maxed out on the width of the frame at medium text size.

I hope all that info helps you and John D square this away...

Dok · 06-05-2001, 11:35 AM

with a ton of help from John D. we have made some changes to the left sidebars. All you guys that were having problems, please check it out, and give us some feedback...

Dok & John D.

Patrick · 06-05-2001, 11:42 AM

IÃ?Â´m on Netscape here in Doitshland - and it comes out perfectly - and a lot faster than previously. Please donÃ?Â´t change a thing. Patrick

jerry peters · 06-05-2001, 11:49 AM

Hi Dok & John, My sidebar is still screwed up. I can correct it by going to "view" and making the Text size smaller, but that makes everything smaller and my eyes ain't that good anymore. You've got to realize that I'm an old man and things have been failing . Heck!!! I'm even older than Hugh!!!!!!

Old Jerry

Dok · 06-05-2001, 12:17 PM

I can tell you for a fact that the problem is browser related. If the window is not big enough to contain the data, then the browser starts to move things around. I can't control that. The problem will go away if you have at least a 800 x 600 screen resolution (more might be needed on a small (15") monitor), and set your font size smaller. For those of you with vision problems, I question whether you should be playing with guns !!

06-05-2001, 07:23 AM	#1
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Side Menu/Main Page Appears to be missing something this morning, Links and Resources do not appear and perhaps somehting else but I am not sure what all was there. I see the Message Board and Rogues Gallery Link, the History of the Luger, the Techinical Information and the General Information, Owners Corner and Unsorted Photos, followed by the Counter banner. What is missing? ~Thor~

06-05-2001, 07:32 AM	#2
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 471 Thanked 513 Times in 127 Posts	You asked "What's Missing?".... The only thing missing is an AOL browser that works 100% of the time!! Seriously - it's all there from "A-Z", "Soups to Nuts", Message Board - LUGER OF THE MONTH"... Oh - then you probably can't see the NEW SECTION Dok must'a put up early this AM called "TED'S EXCELLENT EXAMPLES"??? He opens that section by saying it's only a temporary section.. Shhesssh - hope AOL gets their problems squared away before Dok takes it down..... (LOL!!!! )

06-05-2001, 07:56 AM	#3
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Re: You asked "What's Missing?".... Turkey!

06-05-2001, 08:34 AM	#4
REB Guest Posts: n/a	Re: You asked "What's Missing?".... I am using AOL and I am also missing the same info.

06-05-2001, 08:40 AM	#5
BobL Guest Posts: n/a	JohnD take another look:8 Sorry John, but there is something missing! It appears that the counter icon and Dok's email icon are covering up something below Links & Resources. I don't remember what it was (or is) but the icons have moved up for sure. And I'm not using AOL But am using Netscape 4.76

06-05-2001, 08:46 AM	#6
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 471 Thanked 513 Times in 127 Posts	WOW - you are right!!:-) OK - what I think it is that in the MENU column - there is a "frame in a frame" (right DOK??). If you use larger fonts - then the line spacing of the menuitems pushes the lower categories off the menu (actually behind the other page frame)... If you folks "decrease" your font size "]" a size - do you see more categories?? My guess would be yes..?? Hey DOK - maybe Ted is right on this - your thoughts???

06-05-2001, 08:53 AM	#7
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 471 Thanked 513 Times in 127 Posts	Is this what you are seeing??? This is a partial screen shot of an AOL session I'm just tried..?? http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/aolwindow.jpg

06-05-2001, 09:07 AM	#8
Dok RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Bermuda (Eat Your Heart Out) Posts: 1,626 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Side Menu/Main Page This is definitely an AOL problem, I got an email from Paul R. with exactly the same problem. The sidebar menu is now two frames (instead of one) on top of each other, separated at the Visitor Counter. The concept of "Larger Fonts" may be at the bottom of it, and if you can make the the top frame say "Smaller Font" maybe it will reduce to show the entire menu. The menu should read: Owner's Corner Unsorted Photos Links & Resources Classifieds LUGER of the MONTH See the example below... I'm afraid someone with more PC/AOL experience than me is needed here... Dok http://209.25.36.37/Parabellum/LugerForum.jpg

06-05-2001, 09:09 AM	#9
BobL Guest Posts: n/a	Re: WOW - you are right!!:-) Yesterday Dok's Icon was below and to the right of the Counter Icon. It looks like Dok tried to put it even with the Counter and ended up deleting too many CR's. If you set your screen resolution HIGHER (I use 1024 x 768) more information will show up. To do that you need to (In Windows 95 & 98) right click anywhere on the desktop that doesn't have an icon - go to Properties - then click on the tab at the top of the window marked Settings. You will see a slider that can be moved to a different resolution. Change it to what you like best. Try it you might like it.

06-05-2001, 09:14 AM	#10
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 471 Thanked 513 Times in 127 Posts	DWant to try something in your HTML for the top frame - left menu? And change the FRAMESET declarations to hard pixel values?

06-05-2001, 09:16 AM	#11
BobL Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Side Menu/Main Page Dok, it's appearently a Netscape problem too! I'm not using AOL and it's doing the same thing here. Since I use a higher resolution than some I have more showing up, but something changed that moved the two icons up.

06-05-2001, 09:22 AM	#12
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	I'm good to go with Microsoft Explorer (EOM)

06-05-2001, 09:30 AM	#13
Dok RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Bermuda (Eat Your Heart Out) Posts: 1,626 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	I have that... pixels are set at 335H and 170W...

06-05-2001, 09:31 AM	#14
Dok RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Bermuda (Eat Your Heart Out) Posts: 1,626 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Hmmmm.... And what about this "Larger Font" thing???

06-05-2001, 09:41 AM	#15
Dok RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Bermuda (Eat Your Heart Out) Posts: 1,626 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	John D... I've sent you... my frameset. Check it out and see if you can offer any explanation or suggestions for improvement. Dok

06-05-2001, 10:17 AM	#16
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	IE 5.5 has the same issues with the left frames I think Frank may be seeing cached pages from his own cache or maybe his provider's proxy servers...because I have the same issue with IE 5.5 as the netscape and aol users... two left frames... the lower one with the counter and dok's email slides with the width of the window and can cover up the upper frame depending on your resolution. These conditions are not really a monitor for me as I have a 19 inch monitor and run 1600x1200 resolution and the second frame naturally falls to the bottom of my large screen. Changing font size (using the view menu) from medium to larger sizes makes the left frame text run past the fixed width... The lugerforum.com at the top of the left frame is maxed out on the width of the frame at medium text size. I hope all that info helps you and John D square this away...

06-05-2001, 11:35 AM	#17
Dok RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Bermuda (Eat Your Heart Out) Posts: 1,626 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	OK KIDDIES... HERE's THE DEAL... with a ton of help from John D. we have made some changes to the left sidebars. All you guys that were having problems, please check it out, and give us some feedback... Dok & John D.

06-05-2001, 11:42 AM	#18
Patrick User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 241 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: OK KIDDIES... HERE's THE DEAL... IÃ?Â´m on Netscape here in Doitshland - and it comes out perfectly - and a lot faster than previously. Please donÃ?Â´t change a thing. Patrick

06-05-2001, 11:49 AM	#19
jerry peters User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 54 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: OK KIDDIES... HERE's THE DEAL... Hi Dok & John, My sidebar is still screwed up. I can correct it by going to "view" and making the Text size smaller, but that makes everything smaller and my eyes ain't that good anymore. You've got to realize that I'm an old man and things have been failing . Heck!!! I'm even older than Hugh!!!!!! Old Jerry

06-05-2001, 12:17 PM	#20
Dok RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Bermuda (Eat Your Heart Out) Posts: 1,626 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: OK KIDDIES... HERE'S THE DEAL... I can tell you for a fact that the problem is browser related. If the window is not big enough to contain the data, then the browser starts to move things around. I can't control that. The problem will go away if you have at least a 800 x 600 screen resolution (more might be needed on a small (15") monitor), and set your font size smaller. For those of you with vision problems, I question whether you should be playing with guns !!