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I dropped the ball, natch. Kudos to Holt’s for hanging on to my Luger. They are the best auction house I deal with.
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not to my knowledge - it's based on my research in the Swiss Federal Archives.
I'm working on different publications - but my Swiss Luger story is not written yet... The last thing I have published is a small book about the Swiss pistol trials 1892-1900 (but it's in German - see below) Alexander |
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01-07-2017, 07:16 PM | #46 |
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Alexander,
I would very much like to acquire your Swiss pistol trials 1892-1900 booklet (I can read a little bit of German ). Where can I find it to purchase? Ron
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Ron (and all other interested people...)
you can order the book here: http://www.shop.rwm-depesche.de/de/ - or via mail here: lesestoff@rwm-depesche.de Alexander |
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Some years ago I published an article in a Swiss gun magazine about the first Swiss weapon exports to post-war Germany (Bundesrepublik) in the 1950's and one of the main topics was the export of the P210-4 for the German Bundesgrenzschutz. If you are interested, I can send you a copy of the article, but it's in German. Do you have the excellent P210-book from Armbruster and Kesser (Begegnung mit einer Legende - SP 47/8, P210) - I can strongly recommend it. Alexander |
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I would love to have either pistol. To shoot either would be like driving a Bentley! Thanks for sharing the books...I'm going to check both of them out if I can find them.
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Thanks again, Alexander. I would appreciate a copy of your article. I have the books by Armbruster and Kessler, Vetter, and Doebeli. My German is not so good, but Google Translate fills most of the gaps.
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I have posted some photos on Google+ and uploaded them in an album on this forum.
http://forum.lugerforum.com/album.php?albumid=630 https://goo.gl/photos/KZziYPfJ4zrRDyMG8 Note the inertial dents caused by bullets shifting in the magazine under recoil.
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Michael - I will send you the article next weekend
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Here is the Swiss test firing machine. I wonder if it still exists.
The drawings survived, so if anyone feels like building one? |
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Thanks for the pictures, it is clear that the Swiss did some simplification to the milling/construction to streamline and make production more efficient.
Taking the original curves away does make it look a little like a Lathi though.
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A marvelous acquisition, rare indeed. As I said before, well worth the 6 year wait.
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Have you found this in the Mauser Archives? I'm afraid the machine has not survived - as I know it's not in the RUAG collection, may be in the former ammunition factory collection - I will check this. Alexander Last edited by Stucki; 01-10-2017 at 09:20 AM. |
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They didn't want to sell it to Mauser because they still used it. That is why Mauser got the drawings and photos to construct their own version as required.
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I recommend posting the drawings on this forum. I can think of a few members capable of reproducing this machine.
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