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Unread 11-21-2016, 06:29 PM   #1
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Saw this today and thought some might like to see it.
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Unread 11-21-2016, 07:37 PM   #2
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Although maybe it's a bad example of trigger finger etiquette, it's a nice, clear pic of the Atry in use. I think that's a 1928 Thompson bringing up the rear, the pic does not reveal whether its sling has had the "British turn" mounting modification.
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Early sub-gun or maybe he just liked it.

It's TV and movies that have dictated finger trigger etiquette... in the olden days, we had our finger on the trigger and I don't remember there being lots of accidental shootings on the road.

I am not getting onto you, but the internet phenomenon I see on this is amazing. If I'm searching a building, I know where my finger is going to be
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His Artillery and stock was likely sent to the UK by the US in response to their dire shortage of firearms at the beginning of WWII.
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Looks like the Thompson's sling swivel may be barrel mounted via a band. I was thinking that the Brits. fastened them directly to the left side of the vertical foregrip. The L-drum is a nice touch, for sure.
Mr. Fizzy Stocking Hat is even using a board stock on his artillery.
Does that 32 rd. drum look odd? Almost like there is something wrapped around it?
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Looks like the Thompson's sling swivel may be barrel mounted via a band. I was thinking that the Brits. fastened them directly to the left side of the vertical foregrip. The L-drum is a nice touch, for sure.
Mr. Fizzy Stocking Hat is even using a board stock on his artillery.
Does that 32 rd. drum look odd? Almost like there is something wrapped around it?
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On the Thompson, they found out pretty quick that the slender rod that hods the foregrip is not very strong.

The horizontal grip of the A1 used a band clamped around the barrel and forearm; you are correct that the pistol grip usually had the swivel inletted into the wood of the grip.

This picture looks like the latter to me.
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Early sub-gun or maybe he just liked it.

It's TV and movies that have dictated finger trigger etiquette... in the olden days, we had our finger on the trigger and I don't remember there being lots of accidental shootings on the road.

I am not getting onto you, but the internet phenomenon I see on this is amazing. If I'm searching a building, I know where my finger is going to be
I agree with the trigger business totally, Ed. My comments are more for the range and YouTube situations where all involved are innocent people and safety is the utmost. +1 on the TV/movie effect...searching a building with the muzzle pointed straight up, next to your face, ala Charlie's Angels.
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Two very sought after weapons(expensive also) in that photo.
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Great picture, thanks for sharing.

All firearms training today mandates that the finger be off the actual trigger and lying against the frame until ready to actually fire the weapon. Having the forefinger directly on the trigger can result in an unintended discharge, by "sympathetic mussel" reaction. Many a police officer searching a building, especially in low light, was injured or killed by his partner who was separated and was startled when he suddenly saw "a man" and his immediate reaction was to pull the trigger. In the 1950s nearly happened to my father who was a cop in New Haven, CT, while searching a furniture store with another officer on the midnight shift.
A number of police departments in the age of revolvers had the single action filed down to help eliminate this type of sudden finger reflex when carried hammer back. Having the finger off the trigger gives a little extra time and thought before the weapon is discharged.

In WW II the common military training was finger on the trigger, whenever in a danger zone.
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I'll say one thing. War and police work are very different.
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"Sympathetic mussel"?Clams care about trigger discipline?
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"Sympathetic mussel"?Clams care about trigger discipline?
All the time.
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It took but finger on one trigger to start the first world war and the mere push of another decades later to end the second~ Triggers and fingers together they can be deadly~ Eric
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Interesting discussion regarding an interesting photo. Keep'em coming.
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I'm just wondering why the guy leading would have the Luger and not the Thompson.
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I don't know, but I'd not want that hombre pointing a Thompson at my rear end.
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I have this one in my collection.
No snail drum but a nice moutache
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I have this one in my collection.
No snail drum but a nice moutache
Neat photo.

I'll bet that flamboyant moustache did not last long once that soldier was in the trenches on the front line.
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I have this one in my collection.
No snail drum but a nice moutache
You take my picture. Or else...
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It took but finger on one trigger to start the first world war and the mere push of another decades later to end the second~ Triggers and fingers together they can be deadly~ Eric
I always thought it took two nukes to end the second. At least without some really big, and I mean really big further loss of life.
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