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This 1915 DWM LP08 serial number 1162a has stumped me with its leftmost proof mark:
The barrel features British pressure test markings on the bottom. High resolution photos can be seen and downloaded here: https://goo.gl/photos/c4w4RkMdndDecac17 I would be very grateful for your learned instruction.
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Hi Michael. Nice Artillery. Unfortunately I can't see web storage sites as the one where you posted the Hi-Res photos because I am behind a firewall that prohibits access to those sights. Did you try to post them on Lugerforum.com using the "manage attachments" feature?
If that failed, how about cropping one of the Hi-Res photos and limit the photo to the area where the stamps you are inquiring about. That should not be an issue to post... Thanks. -John |
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Micheal,
It is difficult to see clearly without a detail photo but it looks like the London proof house crown-CP final proof. KFS |
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Thank you, gentlemen. I’ll crack out my macro lens and see how much detail I can capture in a reshoot over the weekend.
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Michael,
The proof mark I cited above looks like this. KFS |
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Karl,
That is what it looks like to me also. I tried to grab an image to enlarge but there is something about that web page that precludes it. Maybe someone else will be more successful (Michael's added photos will probably do the trick). In the meantime I agree that it is most likely a London proof. If it is I would expect that there is a "..tons.." pressure proof marking on the barrel and a "Not English Make" marking somewhere. Ron Whoops....I should have read the initial post more carefully. Michael already said there is a pressure test marking on the barrel.
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Hi Michael,
I am fairly certain this is the crown/GP mark of the London Proof House from 1925. If a pressure mark is also present this, in addition, indicates post 1954. Very nice pistol. Mark |
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It's my understanding that British law required all non-British made guns to go through one of the British proof houses if For Sale in GB. TH
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I find it curious that the English would stamp a proof mark alongside, scaled, and aligned with the German proofs. They were meticulous enough to stamp the pressure test proof on the bottom of the barrel, why not leave the C/CP proof there as well???
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The gun proofing business has long been a cartel operated business, where proofing had to be paid for. So it was mostly a business decision to proof something, not logic.
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Originally Posted by sheepherder
![]() I find it curious that the English would stamp a proof mark alongside, scaled, and aligned with the German proofs. They were meticulous enough to stamp the pressure test proof on the bottom of the barrel, why not leave the C/CP proof there as well??? ![]() Or is this another example of the inscrutable English mind??? ![]() Quote:
The draft of the first comprehensive German proof law, drafted in 1890 and passes in 1891, was based in large part (and considerable detail) on the earlier British proof laws. --Dwight |
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