Kasten magazines boxes for Artillery

goldwing · 11-07-2012, 10:07 PM

I have recently become the owner of one of Jerry's most professional wooden magazine boxes for the artillery luger I would like to either obtain one of the 16 round boxes for 9mm ammo for the luger or the measurements for these boxes. I have a printer who probably be willing to undertake this task.
If I am able to have these printed I will also have enough made for other member who may want them. Thanks for any help.
Bill Hughes

lugerholsterrepair · 11-07-2012, 10:27 PM

Bill..This is a pretty ambitious project..WW2 boxes are considerably different than WW1 boxes in the small details.

I have a printing another printer did for my Friend..I will send you a page so you can show it to your printer.

I believe the dimensions of the actual boxes are much the same..I will see if I can get Ellie to get it into tomorrow's mail. She has it addressed and says to open the envelope carefully!

I am very interested in such a project but I have too many irons in the fire at present. I wouldn't take it on without wanting to do it right. I believe it could be done with some attention to detail and a little effort.

The boxes I am sending have the inserts and labels..The labels are incorrectly printed on a glossy photo grade paper. They need to be printed on a fairly rough rag paper with an offset press not a modern printer.

The WW1 boxes also have a perforated steel edging on the bottom. On the original box I have I could not for the life of me figure out how it attaches to the cardboard. If someone has a box remnant that could be closely inspected for details..that would help. Then the problem of finding this steel material is another conundrum.

The other little detail needed to complete the box is going to be the opener strap. It is placed underneath the glued on label..a coursely woven strip of linen..

So like anything else .. there are many facets to this diamond in the rough!

CAP Black · 11-08-2012, 09:25 AM

Sounds interesting - consider me a candidate to purchase one or more.
Jack

cirelaw · 11-10-2012, 12:33 PM

Jerry I'm submiting a box from both wars. Their sizes are the same. I can't state what the larger boxes are the same. Good luck with your endevour! Eric

goldwing · 11-13-2012, 08:54 PM

Jerry, I received the sample ammo box today. Thanks,
Eric thanks for the photo showing the type of linen strap that was used to open the box. Now..does anyone have a photo showing the bottom of the box with the metal reinforcing on it?

again thanks to all. Bill

George Anderson · 11-14-2012, 08:27 AM

Bill, I will send you a couple of boxes on loan. George

Vlim · 11-14-2012, 09:14 AM

Here are some scans of the box sides I did for a 3d presentation/test of a WW1 1917 box with proof rounds.

goldwing · 11-14-2012, 08:03 PM

George, thanks for the offer of a box and I am looking forward to receiving it and will care doe it with my life! I received the boxes that you mailed to me with the gun racks, Thanks.

Vlim, thanks for the photos. Which is the WWI and which is the WWII? Could you send the photos to my email address. I can't get the forum photos to print out. I will send you a PM with my email address. Bill

cirelaw · 11-14-2012, 08:29 PM

Here are both sealed boxs I have! One brown the other blue! And some old luger ammo!

cirelaw · 11-18-2012, 04:09 PM

Were there seperate military ammo for the navy models?

11-07-2012, 10:07 PM	#1
goldwing User Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Upper South Carolina Posts: 92 Thanks: 9 Thanked 13 Times in 8 Posts	Kasten magazines boxes for Artillery I have recently become the owner of one of Jerry's most professional wooden magazine boxes for the artillery luger I would like to either obtain one of the 16 round boxes for 9mm ammo for the luger or the measurements for these boxes. I have a printer who probably be willing to undertake this task. If I am able to have these printed I will also have enough made for other member who may want them. Thanks for any help. Bill Hughes

11-07-2012, 10:27 PM	#2
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,763 Thanks: 4,865 Thanked 3,104 Times in 1,429 Posts	Bill..This is a pretty ambitious project..WW2 boxes are considerably different than WW1 boxes in the small details. I have a printing another printer did for my Friend..I will send you a page so you can show it to your printer. I believe the dimensions of the actual boxes are much the same..I will see if I can get Ellie to get it into tomorrow's mail. She has it addressed and says to open the envelope carefully! I am very interested in such a project but I have too many irons in the fire at present. I wouldn't take it on without wanting to do it right. I believe it could be done with some attention to detail and a little effort. The boxes I am sending have the inserts and labels..The labels are incorrectly printed on a glossy photo grade paper. They need to be printed on a fairly rough rag paper with an offset press not a modern printer. The WW1 boxes also have a perforated steel edging on the bottom. On the original box I have I could not for the life of me figure out how it attaches to the cardboard. If someone has a box remnant that could be closely inspected for details..that would help. Then the problem of finding this steel material is another conundrum. The other little detail needed to complete the box is going to be the opener strap. It is placed underneath the glued on label..a coursely woven strip of linen.. So like anything else .. there are many facets to this diamond in the rough! __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

11-10-2012, 12:33 PM	#4
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Jerry I'm submiting a box from both wars. Their sizes are the same. I can't state what the larger boxes are the same. Good luck with your endevour! Eric Attached Thumbnails

11-13-2012, 08:54 PM	#5
goldwing User Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Upper South Carolina Posts: 92 Thanks: 9 Thanked 13 Times in 8 Posts	ammo boxes Jerry, I received the sample ammo box today. Thanks, Eric thanks for the photo showing the type of linen strap that was used to open the box. Now..does anyone have a photo showing the bottom of the box with the metal reinforcing on it? again thanks to all. Bill

11-14-2012, 09:14 AM	#7
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,045 Thanks: 1,034 Thanked 3,941 Times in 1,196 Posts	Here are some scans of the box sides I did for a 3d presentation/test of a WW1 1917 box with proof rounds. Attached Thumbnails Attached Images

11-08-2012, 09:25 AM	#3
CAP Black User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Fairmont, WV Right here in Mountaineer country and God's country Posts: 767 Thanks: 100 Thanked 168 Times in 96 Posts	Sounds interesting - consider me a candidate to purchase one or more. Jack

11-14-2012, 08:27 AM	#6
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,527 Times in 786 Posts	Bill, I will send you a couple of boxes on loan. George

11-14-2012, 08:03 PM	#8
goldwing User Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Upper South Carolina Posts: 92 Thanks: 9 Thanked 13 Times in 8 Posts	ammo boxes George, thanks for the offer of a box and I am looking forward to receiving it and will care doe it with my life! I received the boxes that you mailed to me with the gun racks, Thanks. Vlim, thanks for the photos. Which is the WWI and which is the WWII? Could you send the photos to my email address. I can't get the forum photos to print out. I will send you a PM with my email address. Bill

11-14-2012, 08:29 PM	#9
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Here are both sealed boxs I have! One brown the other blue! And some old luger ammo! Attached Thumbnails

11-18-2012, 04:09 PM	#10
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Were there seperate military ammo for the navy models?