Why Swiss?

cirelaw · 04-08-2017, 11:12 AM

I noticed Bob Simpson has 178 Swiss Lugers for sale~ Why are so many available and are they a good investment!! Do most have inport markings? http://www.simpsonltd.com/index.php?...sort=2a&page=2

cirelaw · 04-08-2017, 11:28 AM

Plenty Of Swiss Parts~ http://www.e-sarcoinc.com/luger-swiss.aspx

cirelaw · 04-08-2017, 11:34 AM

Swiss History~http://luger-genesis.com/luger_histo...bellums_1.html

mrerick · 04-08-2017, 10:43 PM

Almost all of them in the USA have been import marked.

They are very high precision Lugers and are generally very well cared for. Many were arsenal refurbished to new condition when the officer that used them purchased them.

They have been pretty plentiful recently, with new imports comping in to several C&R dealers. I bought mine at auction or at shows locally, and they cost quite a bit less than I thought they would. I don't know that I would recommend them for investment because of plentiful supply and level demand, but they are very fine high precision pistols.

They are relatively plentiful because officers can purchase their service pistol at time of retirement, and also have them arsenal rebuilt at the time. Many come onto the market immediately, and some when the officer passes away.

cirelaw · 04-09-2017, 12:13 AM

Marc, Do you think there are more marked than not?

spacecoast · 04-09-2017, 07:52 AM

Eric -

Am I going to have to stop in at your house and show you how to take screen shots with your computer instead of your camera?

cirelaw · 04-09-2017, 10:02 AM

Simple, I take a picture of the screen

mrerick · 04-09-2017, 05:45 PM

Yes - I think most Swiss Lugers in the USA are import marked. Some that were brought in to the USA before the change in marking requirements were marked on the frame under the grips (many of the FGS Firearms / Chris Clark pistols were marked this way).

They were manufactured and issued new until 1948 when the Sig P210 started replacing it. As of 1968, most were likely still in service.

mrerick · 04-09-2017, 05:48 PM

Eric, you can capture the screen you're viewing by hitting the Control/PrintScreen button on most Windows computers. This copies an image of the screen onto the copy/paste clipboard.

When you open an image editor like GIMP or Microsoft Paint / Windows Paint or other program for handling images, you can Paste the image into the picture editor, and then save the file as a "Jpeg".

This will capture what you see accurately and make it much more readable and usable. This sample is only 116kb in size instead of 186kb, which saves space...

cirelaw · 04-09-2017, 05:49 PM

Good Ole FGS, I purchased a 1929 with holster for $1800 and a lot of P38S, I miss them!! none were marked!! I will try it if I can~ TKS

mrerick · 04-09-2017, 05:56 PM

Carefully look under the grips...

cirelaw · 04-09-2017, 06:25 PM

Marc. I'm sure it was there as I was told the old man went to europe and brought back batches. He sold consecutive pairs of which I purchased a pair. In my following bad years I sold them all and bought this one!Tk God I switch to lugers!

cirelaw · 04-09-2017, 06:46 PM

I now have one 1906 Swiss from George and one P38, twenty lugers!

04-08-2017, 11:12 AM	#1
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Why Swiss? I noticed Bob Simpson has 178 Swiss Lugers for sale~ Why are so many available and are they a good investment!! Do most have inport markings? http://www.simpsonltd.com/index.php?...sort=2a&page=2 Attached Thumbnails

04-08-2017, 11:28 AM	#2
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Plenty Of Swiss Parts~ http://www.e-sarcoinc.com/luger-swiss.aspx Attached Thumbnails

04-08-2017, 11:34 AM	#3
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Swiss History~http://luger-genesis.com/luger_histo...bellums_1.html Attached Thumbnails

04-08-2017, 10:43 PM	#4
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,909 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,110 Times in 1,510 Posts	Almost all of them in the USA have been import marked. They are very high precision Lugers and are generally very well cared for. Many were arsenal refurbished to new condition when the officer that used them purchased them. They have been pretty plentiful recently, with new imports comping in to several C&R dealers. I bought mine at auction or at shows locally, and they cost quite a bit less than I thought they would. I don't know that I would recommend them for investment because of plentiful supply and level demand, but they are very fine high precision pistols. They are relatively plentiful because officers can purchase their service pistol at time of retirement, and also have them arsenal rebuilt at the time. Many come onto the market immediately, and some when the officer passes away. __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war. Last edited by mrerick; 04-09-2017 at 06:00 PM.

04-09-2017, 07:52 AM	#6
spacecoast User Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: FL and PA Posts: 332 Thanks: 276 Thanked 243 Times in 109 Posts	Eric - Am I going to have to stop in at your house and show you how to take screen shots with your computer instead of your camera? __________________ My avatars are the Bulgarian word for "Fire", as seen on my 1900, 1906 and 1908 Bulgarian Contract DWM Lugers. Looking for a DWM Commercial side plate #95

04-09-2017, 12:13 AM	#5
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Marc, Do you think there are more marked than not?

04-09-2017, 10:02 AM	#7
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Simple, I take a picture of the screen Attached Thumbnails

04-09-2017, 05:45 PM	#8
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,909 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,110 Times in 1,510 Posts	Yes - I think most Swiss Lugers in the USA are import marked. Some that were brought in to the USA before the change in marking requirements were marked on the frame under the grips (many of the FGS Firearms / Chris Clark pistols were marked this way). They were manufactured and issued new until 1948 when the Sig P210 started replacing it. As of 1968, most were likely still in service. __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

04-09-2017, 05:48 PM	#9
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,909 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,110 Times in 1,510 Posts	Eric, you can capture the screen you're viewing by hitting the Control/PrintScreen button on most Windows computers. This copies an image of the screen onto the copy/paste clipboard. When you open an image editor like GIMP or Microsoft Paint / Windows Paint or other program for handling images, you can Paste the image into the picture editor, and then save the file as a "Jpeg". This will capture what you see accurately and make it much more readable and usable. This sample is only 116kb in size instead of 186kb, which saves space... Attached Thumbnails __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

04-09-2017, 05:49 PM	#10
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Good Ole FGS, I purchased a 1929 with holster for $1800 and a lot of P38S, I miss them!! none were marked!! I will try it if I can~ TKS

04-09-2017, 05:56 PM	#11
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,909 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,110 Times in 1,510 Posts	Carefully look under the grips... __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

04-09-2017, 06:25 PM	#12
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Marc. I'm sure it was there as I was told the old man went to europe and brought back batches. He sold consecutive pairs of which I purchased a pair. In my following bad years I sold them all and bought this one!Tk God I switch to lugers!

04-09-2017, 06:46 PM	#13
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	I now have one 1906 Swiss from George and one P38, twenty lugers! Attached Thumbnails