Magazine ID

apis mellifera · 03-11-2007, 12:38 PM

I just bought this at a gun show today. The seller asked me if I had a Black Widow. I'm not sure why. Is there something about it that would prompt such a question? Also, ballpark value? I bought it because I have two Lugers, but only one original magazine. If it turned out that I got a deal, that would be great! It has "122" and two eagles over 37 stamped into in.

Many Thanks

RockinWR · 03-11-2007, 01:26 PM

SJ,
* A Type III, blue extruded tube, center pinned Al. bottom, Code 122 (Haenel) P.08 magazine bearing S/N 3048f. These mags were accepted on behalf of the Army by Waffen Inspector sE/37.
* The mag would have been issued as the primary mag for a 42 code, 1940 chamber dated Luger of the same S/N.
* The black widow comment by the dealer was ill informed; but, giving the benefit of doubt, probably a leading question to assure you bought a mag consistent w/ the period of Mfg. of your Luger.
* A "black widow" is normally thought of as a Luger w/ black plastic grips and a black plastic mag base. It is a marketing term dreamt up by one of our enterprising U.S. dealers as a way to sell one more "unique" Luger variation for a increased profit. Normally, the "black widow" Luger would be a byf coded '41 or '42 chamber date after about the "u" block of '41".
* Nice mag in great condition. Not knowing what you paid for this example, a "deal" is in the eye of the beholder.
* Trust this helps.

apis mellifera · 03-13-2007, 07:35 AM

Thanks, yes that was very informative. I paid $95. Considering shipping cost etc, I think that was OK. I could probably break even on ebay. I saw it Saturday and decided not to buy it. I talked myself into it that night, so I bought it Sunday. I forgot that after the guy made the black widow comment, he justified the price saying it was an FXO mag, not that that influenced the purchase.

03-11-2007, 12:38 PM	#1
apis mellifera User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: WV Posts: 149 Thanks: 3 Thanked 24 Times in 8 Posts	Magazine ID I just bought this at a gun show today. The seller asked me if I had a Black Widow. I'm not sure why. Is there something about it that would prompt such a question? Also, ballpark value? I bought it because I have two Lugers, but only one original magazine. If it turned out that I got a deal, that would be great! It has "122" and two eagles over 37 stamped into in. Many Thanks

03-11-2007, 01:26 PM	#2
RockinWR User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: D/FW, Tx Posts: 279 Thanks: 109 Thanked 31 Times in 16 Posts	SJ, * A Type III, blue extruded tube, center pinned Al. bottom, Code 122 (Haenel) P.08 magazine bearing S/N 3048f. These mags were accepted on behalf of the Army by Waffen Inspector sE/37. * The mag would have been issued as the primary mag for a 42 code, 1940 chamber dated Luger of the same S/N. * The black widow comment by the dealer was ill informed; but, giving the benefit of doubt, probably a leading question to assure you bought a mag consistent w/ the period of Mfg. of your Luger. * A "black widow" is normally thought of as a Luger w/ black plastic grips and a black plastic mag base. It is a marketing term dreamt up by one of our enterprising U.S. dealers as a way to sell one more "unique" Luger variation for a increased profit. Normally, the "black widow" Luger would be a byf coded '41 or '42 chamber date after about the "u" block of '41". * Nice mag in great condition. Not knowing what you paid for this example, a "deal" is in the eye of the beholder. * Trust this helps.

03-13-2007, 07:35 AM	#3
apis mellifera User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: WV Posts: 149 Thanks: 3 Thanked 24 Times in 8 Posts	Thanks, yes that was very informative. I paid $95. Considering shipping cost etc, I think that was OK. I could probably break even on ebay. I saw it Saturday and decided not to buy it. I talked myself into it that night, so I bought it Sunday. I forgot that after the guy made the black widow comment, he justified the price saying it was an FXO mag, not that that influenced the purchase.