1941 BYF Sideplate #

lugerholsterrepair · 07-24-2006, 05:20 PM

Does anyone know if it is proper for this late Luger to have no number on the interrior of the sideplate? It appears to be matching in every way but no interior #...1941 BYF Actually a 41 over the chamber.
Thanks, Jerry Burney

wlyon · 07-24-2006, 05:44 PM

Jerry I always thought the inside number on a 41 should be 1 number higher than the first two digits of the serial number. As you know it's very possible this was not always done. If the serial number on the sideplate looks correct I for one would not worry about the inside. Just looked at my byf 41 and it is numbered one above the first two digits. Bill

tracyp · 07-24-2006, 06:29 PM

I have two 41's that are all matching and they have no number inside.

Tracy

lugerholsterrepair · 07-24-2006, 07:18 PM

Bill, Tracy, Thanks very much! Jerry

Frank · 07-24-2006, 08:59 PM

Jerry, of the 13 byf Lugers that I have / had, 2 were unmarked, the others are numbered 1 higher than the first two digits of the serial number. So I would say most are marked, but not necessarily all of them!! Hope this helps.

lugerholsterrepair · 07-24-2006, 09:24 PM

Frank, Thanks for the input! I have one other question..The Gesichert, safety, Is it painted in on these late Lugers? I thought the Germans were tightening up at this late stage and mine looks as though is has never had any paint in this area.
Thanks! Imperial Lugers are my interest and I have little time to study Third Reich Pieces. Jerry

75BShooter · 07-24-2006, 11:25 PM

Jerry, The one matched numbered BYF 41 that I have does have a number one higher on the inside of the sideplate than the first 2 numbers of the serial number. Appears with or without inside numbers are correct.

wlyon · 07-25-2006, 12:01 AM

Jerry My 41 byf is painted in the safety .

Balder · 07-25-2006, 02:38 AM

My byf 42 also has "Gesichert" in white paint.

Balder

Nomadr · 07-25-2006, 08:46 AM

My BYF 41 is is all matching with original 95% finish and dose not have the number on the inside of the side plate.
Also there is NO white paint in the "Gesichert"!
I have often wondered about the "no paint" also, glade you brought it up.

Bob

Frank · 07-25-2006, 08:56 AM

Jerry, all the byf Lugers I have left have the "Gesichert" painted in "dirty" white.

lugerholsterrepair · 07-25-2006, 10:50 AM

Thank you fellows...Difficult to apply any hard rules to these things! Jerry Burney

Frank · 07-25-2006, 06:16 PM

Jerry, they were all suppose to be painted! Who knows how many, if any left the plant without paint and how many had the paint removed!!

vesuvio · 08-03-2006, 11:34 AM

Can you guys please post some pictures?

07-24-2006, 05:20 PM	#1
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,760 Thanks: 4,850 Thanked 3,100 Times in 1,426 Posts	1941 BYF Sideplate # Does anyone know if it is proper for this late Luger to have no number on the interrior of the sideplate? It appears to be matching in every way but no interior #...1941 BYF Actually a 41 over the chamber. Thanks, Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

07-24-2006, 05:44 PM	#2
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,615 Thanks: 3,140 Thanked 2,522 Times in 940 Posts	Jerry I always thought the inside number on a 41 should be 1 number higher than the first two digits of the serial number. As you know it's very possible this was not always done. If the serial number on the sideplate looks correct I for one would not worry about the inside. Just looked at my byf 41 and it is numbered one above the first two digits. Bill __________________ Bill Lyon

07-24-2006, 07:18 PM	#4
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,760 Thanks: 4,850 Thanked 3,100 Times in 1,426 Posts	Bill, Tracy, Thanks very much! Jerry __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

07-24-2006, 09:24 PM	#6
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,760 Thanks: 4,850 Thanked 3,100 Times in 1,426 Posts	Frank, Thanks for the input! I have one other question..The Gesichert, safety, Is it painted in on these late Lugers? I thought the Germans were tightening up at this late stage and mine looks as though is has never had any paint in this area. Thanks! Imperial Lugers are my interest and I have little time to study Third Reich Pieces. Jerry __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

07-25-2006, 12:01 AM	#8
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,615 Thanks: 3,140 Thanked 2,522 Times in 940 Posts	Jerry My 41 byf is painted in the safety . __________________ Bill Lyon

07-24-2006, 06:29 PM	#3
tracyp User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Peoples Republic of Kalifornia Posts: 391 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	I have two 41's that are all matching and they have no number inside. Tracy

07-24-2006, 08:59 PM	#5
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	Jerry, of the 13 byf Lugers that I have / had, 2 were unmarked, the others are numbered 1 higher than the first two digits of the serial number. So I would say most are marked, but not necessarily all of them!! Hope this helps.

07-24-2006, 11:25 PM	#7
75BShooter User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: S.F. Bay Area Posts: 42 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Jerry, The one matched numbered BYF 41 that I have does have a number one higher on the inside of the sideplate than the first 2 numbers of the serial number. Appears with or without inside numbers are correct.

07-25-2006, 02:38 AM	#9
Balder User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Norway Posts: 288 Thanks: 20 Thanked 34 Times in 19 Posts	My byf 42 also has "Gesichert" in white paint. Balder

07-25-2006, 08:46 AM	#10
Nomadr Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 276 Thanks: 16 Thanked 28 Times in 22 Posts	My BYF 41 is is all matching with original 95% finish and dose not have the number on the inside of the side plate. Also there is NO white paint in the "Gesichert"! I have often wondered about the "no paint" also, glade you brought it up. Bob

07-25-2006, 08:56 AM	#11
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	Jerry, all the byf Lugers I have left have the "Gesichert" painted in "dirty" white.

07-25-2006, 10:50 AM	#12
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,760 Thanks: 4,850 Thanked 3,100 Times in 1,426 Posts	Thank you fellows...Difficult to apply any hard rules to these things! Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

07-25-2006, 06:16 PM	#13
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	Jerry, they were all suppose to be painted! Who knows how many, if any left the plant without paint and how many had the paint removed!!

08-03-2006, 11:34 AM	#14
vesuvio User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 122 Thanks: 1 Thanked 49 Times in 16 Posts	Can you guys please post some pictures?