Very Rare unit mark / holster

Ron Smith · 09-27-2005, 11:36 AM

[B]By now most of you know that I have a preferrence for Weimar unit marked or "grafitti" stuff.

I was cruising the auctions not long ago. And stopped to look at an S/42 Luger. Don't know why, because I usually blow past Mausers, as they are not in my frame of interest.

It was a nice S/42 with a "throw in" 1915 holster. I moved down to the holster photos and noticed that it was oddly unit marked. After a bit of rapidly searching GÃ?Â¶rtz and Bryan. I decided to contact the seller.

I convinced him that the holster really shouldn't go with the pistol, because the holster was Weimar unit marked and the S/42 was WWII vintage. I mean ,how tacky can you get. Long story short, he agreed to sell the holster separately.{/B]

Nothing special about the holster itself. A nice clean 1915, in very good condition.

Someone has scraped a small spot to remove a marking on the back.

It has been altered with the addition of a rod pouch.

Makers mark is unusual from others I have seen. It has a "patent" stamp. And the makers name has been rubbed and is illegible.

The unit mark is for The Reichswehr Ministerium (The War Ministry) N.B. 47. N.B. translates to Nachrichtentruppe( communications unit) Berlin or possibly BÃ?Â¼ro (office). Weapon 47. If I could find the matching marked Luger. I would die a happy man. The odds are, it ain't gonna happen!

This holster could quite possibly have been in the presence of Gen. von Seeckt, Adm. Raeder, Irwin Rommel and many other German military leaders. This is what leads me to collect "Grafitti" Lugers and holsters.

Just wanted to share. (and brag a bit.)

Ron

Don M · 09-27-2005, 12:32 PM

Ron,

Verrrrryy nice! Note that I am not hacking at your quick on this one.

Ron Smith · 09-27-2005, 12:51 PM

Don

Thanks! I've decided to keep my quick where it knows what it's talking about.

Ron

the gunman · 09-27-2005, 01:13 PM

Very Very nice Ron , Congratulations a hard item to find.

Ron Wood · 09-27-2005, 02:25 PM

Now that's a neat holster! You have found a goodie this time. As you suggested, one wonders what famous and infamous persons were present when this holster was being used.

Edward Tinker · 09-27-2005, 02:45 PM

very nice, so made in 1915, weimar marked, and in about 1935 they added a cleaning rod pouch.

Ed

09-27-2005, 11:36 AM	#1
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Very Rare unit mark / holster [B]By now most of you know that I have a preferrence for Weimar unit marked or "grafitti" stuff. I was cruising the auctions not long ago. And stopped to look at an S/42 Luger. Don't know why, because I usually blow past Mausers, as they are not in my frame of interest. It was a nice S/42 with a "throw in" 1915 holster. I moved down to the holster photos and noticed that it was oddly unit marked. After a bit of rapidly searching GÃ?Â¶rtz and Bryan. I decided to contact the seller. I convinced him that the holster really shouldn't go with the pistol, because the holster was Weimar unit marked and the S/42 was WWII vintage. I mean ,how tacky can you get. Long story short, he agreed to sell the holster separately.{/B] Nothing special about the holster itself. A nice clean 1915, in very good condition. Someone has scraped a small spot to remove a marking on the back. It has been altered with the addition of a rod pouch. Makers mark is unusual from others I have seen. It has a "patent" stamp. And the makers name has been rubbed and is illegible. The unit mark is for The Reichswehr Ministerium (The War Ministry) N.B. 47. N.B. translates to Nachrichtentruppe( communications unit) Berlin or possibly BÃ?Â¼ro (office). Weapon 47. If I could find the matching marked Luger. I would die a happy man. The odds are, it ain't gonna happen! This holster could quite possibly have been in the presence of Gen. von Seeckt, Adm. Raeder, Irwin Rommel and many other German military leaders. This is what leads me to collect "Grafitti" Lugers and holsters. Just wanted to share. (and brag a bit.) Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

09-27-2005, 12:32 PM	#2
Don M Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,429 Thanks: 67 Thanked 292 Times in 191 Posts	Ron, Verrrrryy nice! Note that I am not hacking at your quick on this one. __________________ Regards, Don donmaus1@aol.com Author of History Writ in Steel: German Police Markings 1900-1936 http://www.historywritinsteel.com

09-27-2005, 12:51 PM	#3
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Don Thanks! I've decided to keep my quick where it knows what it's talking about. Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

09-27-2005, 02:25 PM	#5
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,986 Thanks: 1,065 Thanked 5,088 Times in 1,674 Posts	Now that's a neat holster! You have found a goodie this time. As you suggested, one wonders what famous and infamous persons were present when this holster was being used. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

09-27-2005, 02:45 PM	#6
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,909 Thanks: 1,986 Thanked 4,500 Times in 2,076 Posts	very nice, so made in 1915, weimar marked, and in about 1935 they added a cleaning rod pouch. Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

09-27-2005, 01:13 PM	#4
the gunman User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Leland NC 28451 Posts: 1,017 Thanks: 1 Thanked 13 Times in 12 Posts	Very Very nice Ron , Congratulations a hard item to find.