1914 Erfurt Artillery model, what's it worth?

Chazman1946 · 05-10-2013, 03:15 PM

I was gifted an 1914 Artilliery model Erfurt Luger.

The magazine doesn't appear to be original as it is nickel plated.

The weapon is in great shape, although it appears to have been re-finished somewhere along the line as it has a "case hardened" look to it. The serial # is 5519.

The pistol came with a holster, but this doesn't appear to be original either.

What is this weapon worth on todays market?

Or has the Gun Control madness made every gun worth a ton of money?

ithacaartist · 05-10-2013, 03:27 PM

If serial numbers match throughout, $1,500 on up to over $2k, depending on condition.

I believe your mag may be original, as nickeled body mags were original to some of the early guns. It definitely should have a wood bottom... The more knowledgeable members may contribute to/correct this info.

PICS, PICS, PICS, please!

Chazman1946 · 05-10-2013, 04:43 PM

The bottom of the mag appears to have a brown wood finished round part.

I will get photos up and running ASAP, how about the bluing, it looks almost too good to be true and is kind of has a case hardened metal patina to it, Could that possibly be the original too?

Chazman1946 · 05-12-2013, 09:09 PM

Heres a few photos. Right click on the X's and check open link.

spartacus38 · 05-13-2013, 12:33 AM

I can not bring up pictures.
Please email to:
Spartacus38@charter.net
Bob

Milsurp Collector · 05-13-2013, 01:51 PM

Here are his pictures. It looks refinished.

wlyon · 05-13-2013, 01:55 PM

Yes has been buffed and reblued including the strawed parts. Bill

alanint · 05-13-2013, 01:55 PM

Most certainly heavily buffed and refinished. Too bad, as I don't see any heavy pitting, which would have warranted this heavy a hand.

ithacaartist · 05-14-2013, 09:57 AM

Scrolling down the pics, I encountered the one of the top view first, and the buffing didn't look too bad, although the sharp edges look softened a bit; then the left side, Holy Mackerel! Someone made it look like an Aimco from Houston! The color tone of the finish looks decent, too bad about the buffing prep.

05-10-2013, 03:15 PM	#1
Chazman1946 New User Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	1914 Erfurt Artillery model, what's it worth? I was gifted an 1914 Artilliery model Erfurt Luger. The magazine doesn't appear to be original as it is nickel plated. The weapon is in great shape, although it appears to have been re-finished somewhere along the line as it has a "case hardened" look to it. The serial # is 5519. The pistol came with a holster, but this doesn't appear to be original either. What is this weapon worth on todays market? Or has the Gun Control madness made every gun worth a ton of money?

05-10-2013, 03:27 PM	#2
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,346 Thanks: 7,277 Thanked 2,578 Times in 1,365 Posts	If serial numbers match throughout, $1,500 on up to over $2k, depending on condition. I believe your mag may be original, as nickeled body mags were original to some of the early guns. It definitely should have a wood bottom... The more knowledgeable members may contribute to/correct this info. PICS, PICS, PICS, please! __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

05-13-2013, 01:51 PM	#6
Milsurp Collector User Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 3 Posts	Here are his pictures. It looks refinished. Attached Thumbnails

05-13-2013, 01:55 PM	#7
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,635 Thanks: 3,174 Thanked 2,556 Times in 954 Posts	Yes has been buffed and reblued including the strawed parts. Bill __________________ Bill Lyon

05-14-2013, 09:57 AM	#9
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,346 Thanks: 7,277 Thanked 2,578 Times in 1,365 Posts	Scrolling down the pics, I encountered the one of the top view first, and the buffing didn't look too bad, although the sharp edges look softened a bit; then the left side, Holy Mackerel! Someone made it look like an Aimco from Houston! The color tone of the finish looks decent, too bad about the buffing prep. __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

05-10-2013, 04:43 PM	#3
Chazman1946 New User Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	The bottom of the mag appears to have a brown wood finished round part. I will get photos up and running ASAP, how about the bluing, it looks almost too good to be true and is kind of has a case hardened metal patina to it, Could that possibly be the original too?

05-12-2013, 09:09 PM	#4
Chazman1946 New User Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Heres a few photos. Right click on the X's and check open link.

05-13-2013, 12:33 AM	#5
spartacus38 Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: South Lake Tahoe,CA. Posts: 695 Thanks: 0 Thanked 70 Times in 56 Posts	I can not bring up pictures. Please email to: Spartacus38@charter.net Bob

05-13-2013, 01:55 PM	#8
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	Most certainly heavily buffed and refinished. Too bad, as I don't see any heavy pitting, which would have warranted this heavy a hand.