Site Poll - How Long have you Owned/Collected

John D. · 07-04-2002, 07:22 PM

In reading the thread in another discussion forum - Jan brought up a few questions, and one of them would make a terrific Poll..!

So - How long have you owned/collected Lugers?

Also - your answers remain anonymous - unless you post a comment as to how long you have collected/owned them... [img]smile.gif[/img]

tracyp · 08-09-2002, 12:49 AM

I've been collecting for 12 years and I have 14 Lugers. I have one or two from each decade they were made. I also have two Mauser Commemoratives, a Russian and Navy. I've fired each of my Lugers at least once, with the exception of my 1900 American Eagle. I like them all, but my favorite is a 1906 Commercial Navy.

I’ve always like Lugers because of their unique design and their history. Gun collecting runs in the family, my Father has collected Colt Single Action Armys for 35 years.
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schwob · 08-09-2002, 11:35 PM

I've been in love with Lugers for more than 35 yrs. Much to my dismay, they have come and they have gone. I've kept those closest to my heart. It is the the "ONLY" handgun, collect, shoot, admire or dream about. <img src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" />

Roadkill · 08-12-2002, 11:07 PM

I started off with the idea to get an 03, a P17, an 03A3, a M1 Carbine, and a M1 Garand. Then bayonets. Done. Then a 98K, a MKIV, a Type 99, a MAS 36, a Mod 38 Carcano, and a Mod 44 Nagant. Then bayonets. Done. Next came a Gew 98, a Mod 98 Carcano, a Mod 91 Nagant, a 1915 St Entienne Lebel, and a MK III. Then bayonets. Done. Next were German, Japanese, Russian, French, US, Italian, and British helmets from WWI & II. Done. Then came canteens, pistol belts, and combat knives. Almost done. I need French and Italian combat knives. Then came pistols and holsters. I've got a Remington 1911A1, MKVI, Tokarev 33, Nambu, MKIV, P38, and finally the reason of all this, an Erfurt 1918. Still looking for a Beretta Mod 34 and a French pistol. I shoot them all.

RK

ViggoG · 08-24-2002, 03:52 AM

I purchased my first and only Luger about 1948,
whats now known as a 1906 AE Shooter.
For which I paid the vast sum of $35.00, At that time a weeks salary for an Apprentice Machinest.
Viggo

drbuster · 08-24-2002, 11:21 AM

I started collecting in l958 after seeing lugers in those Peter Lorre and Sidney Greenstreet movies and especially the serial Blake of Scotland Yard. My first was purchased through the mail from Ye Old Hunter, a rebarreled DWM with a mismatched sideplate, For $34! I also ordered the artillery for $44 but it never came, they retracted the ad and I got my money back. By the time I had to move west to finish my medical training I had amassed 34 lugers, including a Simson, 1934 Krieghoff, 1917 Artillery, 1900 AE, 1934 S/42, 1906 Navy ($175) and a Mauser GNR. I sold all but the 1906 Navy and went into hibernation until discovering the Luger Forum about 2 1/2 years ago. I am amazed at how many rare and unusual lugers are available IF you have the money!

Big Norm · 08-31-2002, 05:09 AM

I started collecting lugers in 1989. I was talking to my brother in California and he mentioned that he had bought an artillery luger and he really liked the way it shot. I thought that I might enjoy shooting one while deer hunting. Just to kill some tree stumps and not to actually hunt with. So I bought a beat up 1917 artillery with a good bore.

Shortly thereafter we discovered that my mother had advanced cancer and not long to live. I was close to my mother and I got down on myself. The guy who sold me my first Luger invited me to go with him the the Ohio Gun Collectors Association show (OGCA) at the IX Center. I thought that it would be good for me to get away for a day just to get away from the tension of waiting for my mother to die. I walked into the OGCA show and was stunned to see all these beautiful Lugers all over the place. OH WOW!

The people who I rode with and I would meet at lunch time and they would talk about all the good buys of P08's there were at the show. I thought that they would get mad if I bought one of the guns that they talked about and they had the FFL. So I decided to buy a 1914 Erfurt artillery that had light freckling rust all over it but no pits. It had a good bore but I was too stupid to buy the holster and stock that came with it. I told the dealer that I only wanted the gun for $1000 and $1400 seemed like a lot of money for a full rig. Over time, I had a set of all the artilleries and decided to start getting navy Lugers. I have a passion for the model 1914 navy Lugers but Lugers with the strawed parts look cool with the strawing. I now have about 40 Lugers. While I have a couple of Kreighoff's and WW2 Lugers, most of my collecting is in the 1900 to 1920 time frame with the majority of those being artilleries and navies.

The center piece of my collecting is a recently purchased 1893 DWM Borchardt with original bluing and a great holster, stock and check piece which created quite a stir at a recent OGCA show as well as on the forum. My 15 minutes of glory.

I have gotten to the point now where I am looking more for the matching stocks and magazines for the guns that I have. I have a lot of duplicates so I might start trading off some of my Lugers for something else that would improve my collection. I have three nice chamber dated 1914 DWM artilleries (two with matching mags) and Doug Smith of FGS thinks I am trying to corner the market. Actually, circumstances worked out that they came available to me at decent prices that I could not pass up.
Big Norm

Edward Tinker · 08-31-2002, 11:25 AM

Well I can't match some of these great stories!
That is a heck of a note to get into them Big Norm, but interesting [img]tongue.gif[/img]
With me, for some reason I have always liked 65-68 Mustangs, I was 4 1/2 when they came out and so I imagine that I always saw Stangs going down the road. Who knows. With Lugers, I remember seeing World of Luger ads in the back of gun magazines. As a kid, I wanted to buy guns but that is not as easy, even during the early 70's. So, I would go to yard sales, antique stores and ask, "any swords, guns or bayonets?" And pciked up 3 Arisaka, 2 1917 WW1 US, several german and a rash of others, including a Civial War sword. Bought some guns before I joined the army but Lugers and mustangs always seemed not on the market... I was in Hawaii and saw a 1914 Erfurt all matching (not what I said in owners corner, Lord knows why I said that) and it had been reblued. But it was an artillery and I sold my Colt Python and bought the Erfurt. Then a few years later bought a Mauser 1940 / 42 (later sold it to my brother). So I had two Lugers but while in the army didn't play with them much. My last 7 years in the army were in Europe, no gun shows, no Lugers for sale. I was in a small remote spot and so I only hear a few rumors of Lugers sold through the Sportsmens clubs down in Germany (I was in another country) and so not until I got out of the army and back to the ole US of A the last two years have I gotten into Lugers again.
Always read about them, bought Datig's book years ago, but never other guns until the last year and a half, and now have a couple more [img]smile.gif[/img]

Pete Ebbink · 11-13-2002, 11:39 AM

Not too long ago I heard from a NAPCA member that some folks think the Luger Forum is "not for serious collectors"...

Thought I would bring this message thread back up "to the top" to get folks that have not responded a chance to do so...in the hopes that some NAPCA members, who might "lurk' on the Forum, would get a chance to see the "mix" of our Membership.

Regards,

Pete... <img src="graemlins/yltype.gif" border="0" alt="[typing]" />

John Sabato · 11-13-2002, 12:16 PM

Pete,

I am sure that the NAPCA member has not formed his opinion on good information.

Just by the poll taken so far, 45 percent of our members responding have been collecting Lugers for better than 10 years. and 34 percent have been collecting 20 years or more...

Navy · 11-13-2002, 01:37 PM

My first one was a Bulgarian rig, 2 matching mags purchased at Manning's Bait and Tackle in GA in 1962 for $60. Kept it until I was on orders for RVN then traded it for a Python.
Tom A.

Pete Ebbink · 11-13-2002, 03:41 PM

Guys,

I did not mean to imply we don't have advanced and expert collectors here on the Forum. We certainly do !!!

I just think a few NAPCA members are not aware of all of our efforts on the Forum and may have heard some contary info. by a few folks that have departed the Forum.

My reply to any NAPCA member that asks me about the Forum is always an invitation to log on and read for themselves...

Regards,

Pete... <img src="graemlins/yltype.gif" border="0" alt="[typing]" />

John Sabato · 11-13-2002, 04:23 PM

Sorry Pete,

I wasn't implying that YOU were the problem, on the contrary, I was suggesting that if there is a misconception about the forum by the membership at NAPCA it was ill-concieved by misinformation from the sources you have mentioned.

All NAPCA members are welcome here as long as they follow the same rules that we all must abide by.

The red carpet is out and waiting for them.

policeluger · 11-13-2002, 06:52 PM

I got my first Luger at about 13 years old, a grip safety but forgot exact model for $7.50, that was 1960 but I bet still a good deal then. Now I collect only Weimar period police. I'll just check the box that I have over 20.

Dwight Gruber · 11-13-2002, 10:20 PM

I have been fascinated by Lugers all my life--I bought Datig's book, on purpose and with my own money, when I was eleven years old, longer ago than I care to admit to (I remember the ads in the back of the magazines, Lugers by mail for $35...)

After all these intervening years -not- buying Lugers, I finally decided that this was ridiculous, and why not? I bought my first one--a shot-out, re-blued 1900AE--just this past January, and haven't looked back!

--Dwight

markm3 · 11-13-2002, 11:57 PM

I've been interested in them for more than 35 years (huge history buff, especially World War One), and finally bought my first one nearly six years ago. I now have four 4"--a matched 1908 Prussian infantry unit marked first issue; a matched 1917 DWM, a matched 1937 Mauser and a 1941/42 shooter. I also have two artilleries--a matched 1915 DWM and mismatched 1914 Erfurt that Ted Green just beautifully reblued and restrawed (photo under Mark Mansour's Erfurt string in Artillery Lugers). Everyone who visits my home becomes a Luger afficionado. It's just a thing with them, a mystique that is very difficult to quantify, but those of us who have held, cleaned, shot and examined one, and pondered where it has been, know it when we see and feel it.

Mark

Stevie · 11-14-2002, 12:57 AM

I can't really say that I collect Lugers, but I do own two. The thrill involved in picking up an old gun, maybe getting to shoot it, especialy some old soldiers side arm is better than reading a hundred history books! I don't mean to belittle the books, but reading history is one thing, getting to hold it in your hand is quite another thrill.

Stevie.

ronin · 11-14-2002, 08:32 PM

SIX HOURS!!!!!!!!! That's how long i've had my Luger. How long i waited ? i can't really tell, probably my whole life is the right answer.

I just got my (first?) Luger, it's broken, rusted, beaten up, crappy, mismached and in a condition that will probably make most of you think that i've waisted my money, laugh or puke.

BUT, i got a terrific deal for such a lovely piece of crap. Only $250 for what would normally be at least $500 down these impoverished parts of the 4th world.

I'll have to wait ages until i get the $ for broken parts and make my baby a shootable gun once again but then again, i bet you all still remember what is/was like to fall in love with your very first Luger.

Nuff said, must go on fondling the new beast and i need both hands for that.

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John Sabato · 11-15-2002, 12:42 PM

ronin,

Please post photographs of your "new" Luger [img]smile.gif[/img]

07-04-2002, 07:22 PM	#1
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 477 Thanked 515 Times in 128 Posts	Site Poll - How Long have you Owned/Collected In reading the thread in another discussion forum - Jan brought up a few questions, and one of them would make a terrific Poll..! So - How long have you owned/collected Lugers? Also - your answers remain anonymous - unless you post a comment as to how long you have collected/owned them... [img]smile.gif[/img]

08-31-2002, 11:25 AM	#8
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,931 Thanks: 2,031 Thanked 4,527 Times in 2,090 Posts	Well I can't match some of these great stories! That is a heck of a note to get into them Big Norm, but interesting [img]tongue.gif[/img] With me, for some reason I have always liked 65-68 Mustangs, I was 4 1/2 when they came out and so I imagine that I always saw Stangs going down the road. Who knows. With Lugers, I remember seeing World of Luger ads in the back of gun magazines. As a kid, I wanted to buy guns but that is not as easy, even during the early 70's. So, I would go to yard sales, antique stores and ask, "any swords, guns or bayonets?" And pciked up 3 Arisaka, 2 1917 WW1 US, several german and a rash of others, including a Civial War sword. Bought some guns before I joined the army but Lugers and mustangs always seemed not on the market... I was in Hawaii and saw a 1914 Erfurt all matching (not what I said in owners corner, Lord knows why I said that) and it had been reblued. But it was an artillery and I sold my Colt Python and bought the Erfurt. Then a few years later bought a Mauser 1940 / 42 (later sold it to my brother). So I had two Lugers but while in the army didn't play with them much. My last 7 years in the army were in Europe, no gun shows, no Lugers for sale. I was in a small remote spot and so I only hear a few rumors of Lugers sold through the Sportsmens clubs down in Germany (I was in another country) and so not until I got out of the army and back to the ole US of A the last two years have I gotten into Lugers again. Always read about them, bought Datig's book years ago, but never other guns until the last year and a half, and now have a couple more [img]smile.gif[/img] __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

11-13-2002, 12:16 PM	#10
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	Pete, I am sure that the NAPCA member has not formed his opinion on good information. Just by the poll taken so far, 45 percent of our members responding have been collecting Lugers for better than 10 years. and 34 percent have been collecting 20 years or more... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

11-13-2002, 04:23 PM	#13
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	Sorry Pete, I wasn't implying that YOU were the problem, on the contrary, I was suggesting that if there is a misconception about the forum by the membership at NAPCA it was ill-concieved by misinformation from the sources you have mentioned. All NAPCA members are welcome here as long as they follow the same rules that we all must abide by. The red carpet is out and waiting for them. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

11-13-2002, 11:57 PM	#16
markm3 User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 59 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I've been interested in them for more than 35 years (huge history buff, especially World War One), and finally bought my first one nearly six years ago. I now have four 4"--a matched 1908 Prussian infantry unit marked first issue; a matched 1917 DWM, a matched 1937 Mauser and a 1941/42 shooter. I also have two artilleries--a matched 1915 DWM and mismatched 1914 Erfurt that Ted Green just beautifully reblued and restrawed (photo under Mark Mansour's Erfurt string in Artillery Lugers). Everyone who visits my home becomes a Luger afficionado. It's just a thing with them, a mystique that is very difficult to quantify, but those of us who have held, cleaned, shot and examined one, and pondered where it has been, know it when we see and feel it. Mark __________________ markm3

08-09-2002, 12:49 AM	#2
tracyp User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Peoples Republic of Kalifornia Posts: 391 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	I've been collecting for 12 years and I have 14 Lugers. I have one or two from each decade they were made. I also have two Mauser Commemoratives, a Russian and Navy. I've fired each of my Lugers at least once, with the exception of my 1900 American Eagle. I like them all, but my favorite is a 1906 Commercial Navy. I’ve always like Lugers because of their unique design and their history. Gun collecting runs in the family, my Father has collected Colt Single Action Armys for 35 years. <img src="graemlins/jumper.gif" border="0" alt="[jumper]" />

08-09-2002, 11:35 PM	#3
schwob RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Coast of Maine Posts: 273 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I've been in love with Lugers for more than 35 yrs. Much to my dismay, they have come and they have gone. I've kept those closest to my heart. It is the the "ONLY" handgun, collect, shoot, admire or dream about. <img src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" />

08-12-2002, 11:07 PM	#4
Roadkill User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,632 Thanks: 1 Thanked 28 Times in 17 Posts	I started off with the idea to get an 03, a P17, an 03A3, a M1 Carbine, and a M1 Garand. Then bayonets. Done. Then a 98K, a MKIV, a Type 99, a MAS 36, a Mod 38 Carcano, and a Mod 44 Nagant. Then bayonets. Done. Next came a Gew 98, a Mod 98 Carcano, a Mod 91 Nagant, a 1915 St Entienne Lebel, and a MK III. Then bayonets. Done. Next were German, Japanese, Russian, French, US, Italian, and British helmets from WWI & II. Done. Then came canteens, pistol belts, and combat knives. Almost done. I need French and Italian combat knives. Then came pistols and holsters. I've got a Remington 1911A1, MKVI, Tokarev 33, Nambu, MKIV, P38, and finally the reason of all this, an Erfurt 1918. Still looking for a Beretta Mod 34 and a French pistol. I shoot them all. RK

08-24-2002, 03:52 AM	#5
ViggoG RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: South Side Virginia Posts: 534 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I purchased my first and only Luger about 1948, whats now known as a 1906 AE Shooter. For which I paid the vast sum of $35.00, At that time a weeks salary for an Apprentice Machinest. Viggo

08-24-2002, 11:21 AM	#6
drbuster User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Mateo, California Posts: 1,432 Thanks: 2 Thanked 71 Times in 56 Posts	I started collecting in l958 after seeing lugers in those Peter Lorre and Sidney Greenstreet movies and especially the serial Blake of Scotland Yard. My first was purchased through the mail from Ye Old Hunter, a rebarreled DWM with a mismatched sideplate, For $34! I also ordered the artillery for $44 but it never came, they retracted the ad and I got my money back. By the time I had to move west to finish my medical training I had amassed 34 lugers, including a Simson, 1934 Krieghoff, 1917 Artillery, 1900 AE, 1934 S/42, 1906 Navy ($175) and a Mauser GNR. I sold all but the 1906 Navy and went into hibernation until discovering the Luger Forum about 2 1/2 years ago. I am amazed at how many rare and unusual lugers are available IF you have the money!

08-31-2002, 05:09 AM	#7
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	I started collecting lugers in 1989. I was talking to my brother in California and he mentioned that he had bought an artillery luger and he really liked the way it shot. I thought that I might enjoy shooting one while deer hunting. Just to kill some tree stumps and not to actually hunt with. So I bought a beat up 1917 artillery with a good bore. Shortly thereafter we discovered that my mother had advanced cancer and not long to live. I was close to my mother and I got down on myself. The guy who sold me my first Luger invited me to go with him the the Ohio Gun Collectors Association show (OGCA) at the IX Center. I thought that it would be good for me to get away for a day just to get away from the tension of waiting for my mother to die. I walked into the OGCA show and was stunned to see all these beautiful Lugers all over the place. OH WOW! The people who I rode with and I would meet at lunch time and they would talk about all the good buys of P08's there were at the show. I thought that they would get mad if I bought one of the guns that they talked about and they had the FFL. So I decided to buy a 1914 Erfurt artillery that had light freckling rust all over it but no pits. It had a good bore but I was too stupid to buy the holster and stock that came with it. I told the dealer that I only wanted the gun for $1000 and $1400 seemed like a lot of money for a full rig. Over time, I had a set of all the artilleries and decided to start getting navy Lugers. I have a passion for the model 1914 navy Lugers but Lugers with the strawed parts look cool with the strawing. I now have about 40 Lugers. While I have a couple of Kreighoff's and WW2 Lugers, most of my collecting is in the 1900 to 1920 time frame with the majority of those being artilleries and navies. The center piece of my collecting is a recently purchased 1893 DWM Borchardt with original bluing and a great holster, stock and check piece which created quite a stir at a recent OGCA show as well as on the forum. My 15 minutes of glory. I have gotten to the point now where I am looking more for the matching stocks and magazines for the guns that I have. I have a lot of duplicates so I might start trading off some of my Lugers for something else that would improve my collection. I have three nice chamber dated 1914 DWM artilleries (two with matching mags) and Doug Smith of FGS thinks I am trying to corner the market. Actually, circumstances worked out that they came available to me at decent prices that I could not pass up. Big Norm

11-13-2002, 11:39 AM	#9
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Not too long ago I heard from a NAPCA member that some folks think the Luger Forum is "not for serious collectors"... Thought I would bring this message thread back up "to the top" to get folks that have not responded a chance to do so...in the hopes that some NAPCA members, who might "lurk' on the Forum, would get a chance to see the "mix" of our Membership. Regards, Pete... <img src="graemlins/yltype.gif" border="0" alt="[typing]" />

11-13-2002, 01:37 PM	#11
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	My first one was a Bulgarian rig, 2 matching mags purchased at Manning's Bait and Tackle in GA in 1962 for $60. Kept it until I was on orders for RVN then traded it for a Python. Tom A.

11-13-2002, 03:41 PM	#12
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Guys, I did not mean to imply we don't have advanced and expert collectors here on the Forum. We certainly do !!! I just think a few NAPCA members are not aware of all of our efforts on the Forum and may have heard some contary info. by a few folks that have departed the Forum. My reply to any NAPCA member that asks me about the Forum is always an invitation to log on and read for themselves... Regards, Pete... <img src="graemlins/yltype.gif" border="0" alt="[typing]" />

11-13-2002, 06:52 PM	#14
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	I got my first Luger at about 13 years old, a grip safety but forgot exact model for $7.50, that was 1960 but I bet still a good deal then. Now I collect only Weimar period police. I'll just check the box that I have over 20.

11-13-2002, 10:20 PM	#15
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,901 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,316 Times in 430 Posts	I have been fascinated by Lugers all my life--I bought Datig's book, on purpose and with my own money, when I was eleven years old, longer ago than I care to admit to (I remember the ads in the back of the magazines, Lugers by mail for $35...) After all these intervening years -not- buying Lugers, I finally decided that this was ridiculous, and why not? I bought my first one--a shot-out, re-blued 1900AE--just this past January, and haven't looked back! --Dwight

11-14-2002, 12:57 AM	#17
Stevie User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Ok. Posts: 212 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I can't really say that I collect Lugers, but I do own two. The thrill involved in picking up an old gun, maybe getting to shoot it, especialy some old soldiers side arm is better than reading a hundred history books! I don't mean to belittle the books, but reading history is one thing, getting to hold it in your hand is quite another thrill. Stevie.

11-14-2002, 08:32 PM	#18
ronin User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina Posts: 50 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	SIX HOURS!!!!!!!!! That's how long i've had my Luger. How long i waited ? i can't really tell, probably my whole life is the right answer. I just got my (first?) Luger, it's broken, rusted, beaten up, crappy, mismached and in a condition that will probably make most of you think that i've waisted my money, laugh or puke. BUT, i got a terrific deal for such a lovely piece of crap. Only $250 for what would normally be at least $500 down these impoverished parts of the 4th world. I'll have to wait ages until i get the $ for broken parts and make my baby a shootable gun once again but then again, i bet you all still remember what is/was like to fall in love with your very first Luger. Nuff said, must go on fondling the new beast and i need both hands for that. <img src="graemlins/jumper.gif" border="0" alt="[jumper]" /> 0-0

11-15-2002, 12:42 PM	#19
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	ronin, Please post photographs of your "new" Luger [img]smile.gif[/img] __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*