Halos~

cirelaw · 10-25-2021, 09:10 PM

Do all barrel base numbers need to have halos to be legit?

mrerick · 10-26-2021, 08:17 AM

It depends on the variation of Luger.

The type of finish (rust bluing) and the order that the die is stamped (blued then die stamped) determines if you'll see a halo.

The halo is caused by the stress of stretching surface metal that occurs when the die pushes through the surface of the blued metal.

cirelaw · 10-26-2021, 12:23 PM

1906 French Contract~ Ultimate halo!

Norme · 10-26-2021, 02:19 PM

Hi Eric,
There is no way one can make out halos underneath all that white lacquer.
Regards, Norm

cirelaw · 10-26-2021, 10:49 PM

I agree but look at the 2 B U G and what caused the cloud on the bottom base of the barrel? Heres the top! TKS

mrerick · 10-27-2021, 09:39 AM

Eric, the area of the barrel with finish loss in the photo you posted isn't what I'd refer to as a "halo".

The FAQ Document has a good example of what a "halo" looks like on page 58.

A number of things can reduce the blued finish (which is a magnetite state of iron oxide) back to steel, or physically remove the very thin layer of bluing. It can be done chemically or through abrasion or galling. There are common household chemicals that will reduce blued steel back to bare steel.

cirelaw · 10-29-2021, 10:15 PM

A fine discussion on this site in 2008, https://www.lugerforums.com/threads/...l-markings.45/

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cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Halos~ Do all barrel base numbers need to have halos to be legit?

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mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,900 Thanks: 1,370 Thanked 3,094 Times in 1,503 Posts	It depends on the variation of Luger. The type of finish (rust bluing) and the order that the die is stamped (blued then die stamped) determines if you'll see a halo. The halo is caused by the stress of stretching surface metal that occurs when the die pushes through the surface of the blued metal. __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

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cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	1906 French Contract~ Ultimate halo! Attached Thumbnails Attached Images

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cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	I agree but look at the 2 B U G and what caused the cloud on the bottom base of the barrel? Heres the top! TKS Attached Thumbnails Attached Images

10-27-2021, 09:39 AM	#6
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,900 Thanks: 1,370 Thanked 3,094 Times in 1,503 Posts	Eric, the area of the barrel with finish loss in the photo you posted isn't what I'd refer to as a "halo". The FAQ Document has a good example of what a "halo" looks like on page 58. A number of things can reduce the blued finish (which is a magnetite state of iron oxide) back to steel, or physically remove the very thin layer of bluing. It can be done chemically or through abrasion or galling. There are common household chemicals that will reduce blued steel back to bare steel. __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

10-26-2021, 02:19 PM	#4
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,414 Thanks: 224 Thanked 2,591 Times in 930 Posts	Hi Eric, There is no way one can make out halos underneath all that white lacquer. Regards, Norm

10-29-2021, 10:15 PM	#7
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	A fine discussion on this site in 2008, https://www.lugerforums.com/threads/...l-markings.45/