Have my doubts

hayhugh · 07-25-2015, 07:38 AM

Here is a new one for you Norm, http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=497110123

sheepherder · 07-25-2015, 09:54 AM

No reserve and $.01 starting bid???

Hell, I'm bidding on it!!!

I don't care if the front of the frame has been skim-cut and re-stamped...

Very wide throat [feed ramp]...Lots of boogering on various parts...Strange gouge near end of barrel...

Norme · 07-25-2015, 10:23 AM

Hi Hugh, Thanks for the heads-up. It's an interesting assemblage of parts. I don't think the front of the frame has been shaved, it's more likely that that undated receiver is from a long frame gun. The unmarked 6" barrel is definitely a replacement.
Regards, Norm

sheepherder · 07-25-2015, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norme

I don't think the front of the frame has been shaved, it's more likely that that undated receiver is from a long frame gun.

Norm, the displacement doesn't look large enough for the long/short frame swap...

(If anyone else is thinking of bidding, be aware that my absolutely top bid will be $120...OK, maybe $150...You'll have to beat that...)

Ben M. · 07-25-2015, 10:38 AM

what causes such damages at the receiver lug? safe to shoot now or not so?

sheepherder · 07-25-2015, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben M.

what causes such damages at the receiver lug?

Hammer & punch??? Hammer & chisel??? Hammer & nail???

tomaustin · 07-25-2015, 11:06 AM

the spare parts are worth $2.00...........

Dwight Gruber · 07-25-2015, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sheepherder

...the displacement doesn't look large enough for the long/short frame swap...

The difference between a long and short frame is only 1mm.

--Dwight

RichSr · 07-26-2015, 06:39 PM

WAG: might be that the chamber had been drilled to deactivate. There seems to be a corresponding imperfection in the chamber in pic#19

alanint · 07-27-2015, 08:36 AM

It looks like somebody used a vice grip on the receiver to get the original barrel off.

sheepherder · 07-29-2015, 04:00 PM

$1285 and 25 bids and climbing, with 2 days to go...

sheepherder · 07-29-2015, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwight Gruber

The difference between a long and short frame is only 1mm.

--Dwight

Dwight, I don't have a stripped barrel or barrel extension of either here to measure, but reading the prints it looks like 2mm...or .078"...

DonVoigt · 07-29-2015, 09:33 PM

The original breeching washer I bought from Tom Heller, for installing a "long" threaded barrel into a short frame, measures 2.60 mm or 0.101".

It is reportedly an original washer: I can't imagine they would leave it that much longer than required.

Tom?

I was not able to try it out, as my "long" threaded barrel would not turn into the receiver I was trying. I need one of those thread chasers!

swelfelo · 07-31-2015, 06:57 PM

I would be interested but Bubba got his hands on this one first.

sheepherder · 08-04-2015, 04:12 PM

This item has been Sold!
German DWM 1917 Navy Luger P08 9mm with Stock

Current Bid $1,395.00 No Reserve! Started at $0.01

Quantity 1 # of bids 26
Time left Listing has Ended

07-25-2015, 09:54 AM	#2
sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,181 Thanks: 1,398 Thanked 4,438 Times in 2,327 Posts	No reserve and $.01 starting bid??? Hell, I'm bidding on it!!! I don't care if the front of the frame has been skim-cut and re-stamped... Very wide throat [feed ramp]...Lots of boogering on various parts...Strange gouge near end of barrel... __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...

07-26-2015, 06:39 PM	#9
RichSr User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: West Texas Posts: 127 Thanks: 153 Thanked 51 Times in 35 Posts	WAG: might be that the chamber had been drilled to deactivate. There seems to be a corresponding imperfection in the chamber in pic#19 __________________ Rich

07-29-2015, 04:00 PM	#11
sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,181 Thanks: 1,398 Thanked 4,438 Times in 2,327 Posts	$1285 and 25 bids and climbing, with 2 days to go... __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...

07-31-2015, 06:57 PM	#14
swelfelo User Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 28 Thanks: 3 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	I would be interested . . . . I would be interested but Bubba got his hands on this one first.

08-04-2015, 04:12 PM	#15
sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,181 Thanks: 1,398 Thanked 4,438 Times in 2,327 Posts	This item has been Sold! German DWM 1917 Navy Luger P08 9mm with Stock Current Bid $1,395.00 No Reserve! Started at $0.01 Quantity 1 # of bids 26 Time left Listing has Ended __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...

07-25-2015, 07:38 AM	#1
hayhugh User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Florida/Penna Posts: 882 Thanks: 848 Thanked 507 Times in 270 Posts	Have my doubts Here is a new one for you Norm, http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=497110123

07-25-2015, 10:23 AM	#3
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,414 Thanks: 224 Thanked 2,591 Times in 930 Posts	Hi Hugh, Thanks for the heads-up. It's an interesting assemblage of parts. I don't think the front of the frame has been shaved, it's more likely that that undated receiver is from a long frame gun. The unmarked 6" barrel is definitely a replacement. Regards, Norm

07-25-2015, 10:38 AM	#5
Ben M. User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Retired to Naples, FL. Posts: 474 Thanks: 82 Thanked 117 Times in 79 Posts	what causes such damages at the receiver lug? safe to shoot now or not so?

07-25-2015, 11:06 AM	#7
tomaustin Lifer X5 Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: texas Posts: 708 Thanks: 87 Thanked 522 Times in 201 Posts	the spare parts are worth $2.00...........

07-27-2015, 08:36 AM	#10
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	It looks like somebody used a vice grip on the receiver to get the original barrel off.

07-29-2015, 09:33 PM	#13
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,677 Thanks: 1,439 Thanked 4,347 Times in 2,038 Posts	The original breeching washer I bought from Tom Heller, for installing a "long" threaded barrel into a short frame, measures 2.60 mm or 0.101". It is reportedly an original washer: I can't imagine they would leave it that much longer than required. Tom? I was not able to try it out, as my "long" threaded barrel would not turn into the receiver I was trying. I need one of those thread chasers!